Are you satisfied with the offseason (so far)

[KillerLeft]

If lively isn’t getting some minutes here and there this season and doesn’t have a set rotation spot next season, I’ll be disappointed. That’s the worst case scenario, imo. Any slower than that, I’ll think it’s a bad pick.

[hakeemfaan]

There’s the difference. 

I like Lively specifically BECAUSE he’s skinny, at least in part. Sure, I think he could stand to put on some muscle, but not too much bulk, I hope. The lighter on his feet he stays, the longer into his career he’ll be able to stay effective, imo. 

Willie Cauley-Stein with a heart, brain, motor and maybe even a catch and shoot game? That’s the dream.

WCS looked much more toned though. Horrible IQ like you said. 

Saw your next post. I can even give this year up. If Lively is a set 20 min rotation player by year 2, I agree it is a good pick. He just seems so raw though. Hopefully it works out.

[Jym]

If lively isn’t getting some minutes here and there this season and doesn’t have a set rotation spot next season, I’ll be disappointed. That’s the worst case scenario, imo. Any slower than that, I’ll think it’s a bad pick.

I'll be even more convinced that Kidd needs to get his ass out of here
Really don't care how ill prepared Lively is. He has to get the minutes and grow on the court

[HoosierDaddyKid]

From whence they came from last year, it's a big improvement. They got off one bad contract, and hopefully, they find a way to get off the other one. I just don't know if it was enough to compete for a top seed in the West. Other teams got better too.

[Jason Terry]

From whence they came from last year, it's a big improvement. They got off one bad contract, and hopefully, they find a way to get off the other one.  I just don't know if it was enough to compete for a top seed in the West.  Other teams got better too.

Denver is the only team in the West that can be written in ink at the top of the standings. 2-11 seeds are wide open. Every single team has major questions and we shouldn’t be afraid of any of them. It will be a dog fight, but i like our dogs

[DaRiv]

I just voted Yes, but just barely. Mostly because I have come to the realization how important to retain Kyrie is. Obviously, our fate is tied to Luka, but I have come to the bitter conclusion that Luka has yet to make another player's game any easier. Kyrie is the one player who has joined this roster and was able to adjust his game, and play at a elevated level. The number of players who have joined this roster and had their game abbreviated or flamed out entirely are numerous.

Yes, I like Lively and O-Max, but I think they will make an impact long term, similar to the trajectory Maxi, DFS and Jalen took. I can't imagine anyone fitting in on this roster any faster than Jalen did.

[HoosierDaddyKid]

Denver is the only team in the West that can be written in ink at the top of the standings. 2-11 seeds are wide open. Every single team has major questions and we shouldn’t be afraid of any of them. It will be a dog fight, but i like our dogs

Who said anything about being afraid of any team?  You shouldn't be scared of anyone.  It's not cast in stone that even Denver repeats. Shit happens. It's still going to be very competitive, and I stand by my words did we do enough?  Looking at other rosters in the West,  I'm not so sure.

[ThisIStheYear]

It sure as Hell is about 5,000 times better than last off-season. The Mavs should be better, in my opinion, than before that sickening debacle. My one worry is whether Kidd can get his coaching act together. Even the team two seasons ago was good only because the injury to THJ forced Kidd to play his best lineups. I’m cautiously optimistic.

[mvossman]

It sure as Hell is about 5,000 times better than last off-season.  The Mavs should be better, in my opinion, than before that sickening debacle. My one worry is whether Kidd can get his coaching act together. Even the team two seasons ago was good only because the injury to THJ forced Kidd to play his best lineups. I’m cautiously optimistic.

Its interesting because most of their best lineups had Timmy in them last season.

[F Gump]

If lively isn’t getting some minutes here and there this season and doesn’t have a set rotation spot next season, I’ll be disappointed. That’s the worst case scenario, imo. Any slower than that, I’ll think it’s a bad pick.

It'll probably make you jump off a cliff if it happens this way, and assume he's a bust (or that Kidd is a dolt), but it's more realistic level of expectation if Lively gets minutes this year like Gobert did in his 1st season. The NBA is a HUGE jump.

Gobert got less than 10 mpg and only played 45 games.

Similar players. Both coming into the league with some defensive skills and expectations, and few on the offensive end. Both with obstacles to them getting lots of minutes - with Dallas, its because they want to win now, with Utah it was a bad team but with lots of big man talent already there. It takes time, and hard work. Expectations (and fan demands) are way too high for him as a rookie.

[KillerLeft]

It'll probably make you jump off a cliff if it happens this way, and assume he's a bust (or that Kidd is a dolt), but it's more realistic level of expectation if Lively gets minutes this year like Gobert did in his 1st season. The NBA is a HUGE jump.

Gobert got less than 10 mpg and only played 45 games.

Similar players. Both coming into the league with some defensive skills and expectations, and few on the offensive end. Both with obstacles to them getting lots of minutes - with Dallas, its because they want to win now, with Utah it was a bad team but with lots of big man talent already there. It takes time, and hard work. Expectations (and fan demands) are way too high for him as a rookie.

Why would that make me jump off a cliff? Did you read what I wrote? It’s exactly what I’m expecting.

[myconsumerclub]

Lively already looks better than Gobert to me because he has feet that actually move and get him places to defend smaller faster players that give normal centers a lot of problems.

OMax is the man he had better be given all the time he can manage because he is looking like prime Matrix and should start far sooner than Lively.

Hardy is going to be fine he did well last season as a rookie and he should continue to improve. If Green jumps another level he is a clear starter at the 3. GW is undersized at the 4 I can see him fitting in better as a 3&D SF sharing time with Green. OMax could get mins at SF as well.

We forgot to mention how Luka and Kyrie should make our players look better with their ability to find open players who get to score wide open shots and we have a lot of 3 point shooting talent. Luka Irving Curry Hardy Green THJ GW Kleber OMax Exum Holmes and even Lively can hit a 3. McGee may be the only guy on the team that can't hit 3's Powell suck at the 3 but he could hit them. 12 out of 14 players can hit 3's.

I was wanting to get another center in the draft that decided to return to school but he is probably going to remain a 2nd rounder and easy enough to get next offseason so I started to look at Lively and I wanted to move down and add more picks so I got my wish when the Mavs made that move. I was surprised that they could find a taker for Bertans so soon. I figured he would wait till the TDL to get moved same with Bullock. Getting those 2 gone made my day.

GW is a great signing can play 3/4 and hit 3's plus defense is a known need we just supplied with his addition
Curry is a nice specialist to have on any team with 2 all star passing geniuses like Luka and Ky
Exum nice recovery project former 5th pick who now learns how to hit 3's see above and this guy also defends like crazy if he works out this is a huge addition
Draft picks OMAX and LIVELY = More Nico magic and after he signed Hardy and Hardy showed he was special that sold me on our draft genius and how he could out maneuver the leagues best draft minds. Lively should play a lot more as the season progresses and if he adds a 3 which is what I feel is possible then he changes his worth to this team in a major way and that could happen sooner than many years from now. This team will push him to shoot it when he is open. I just hope that his defense and mindset stays on the defense first.
OMAX what can I say that has not already been said? He can drive and has handles enough to create his own shot. That is huge.
Holmes is an older guy buy 29 is not that old. He was a threat to score when he played before and he rebounded the ball very well. If he is that guy still then this team got a steal. He was a risk worth taking considering what we got rid of in that trade.

That is a pretty good offseason as is.

Eventual starting 5 could be Luka Kyrie GW OMax and Lively Luka and Kyrie will find these guys spots open because you know other teams will play off the rookies more and that will get them a lot of open looks.
Bench: Exum/Curry THJ/Hardy Green/Exum 1 through 3 is deep then at the PF you have Kleber Holmes and GW backing up OMax

THE WEAKEST LINK CENTER: Lively can change that weakness to a strength if he pans out. We could have a steal in Holmes as well and as small ball centers go he used to be one of the best. That gives you a dual look at the 5 plus we still have Kleber to stretch defenses and that is a 3rd look to use. Not enough you say we need more well you guys must be ecstatic that we were able to bring back Powell, me not so much but it seems a lot of guys are happy we brought Dwight back. I personally am glad we still have McGee if we have to have DP on the team I would rather play McGee than DP. 5 minutes from each shouldn't hurt too much.

ADDITIONAL MOVES: on the trade block is THJ McGee and if we are being honest if we suck out of the gate with our revamped team we may see trades of one or both of Hardy and Green and that would piss me off.

We took the right path to build through the draft and develop a dynasty by drafting the guys we got and that is what we need to commit to.

Holmes Kleber and Powell are assets that we can move as well if they start to look better in the roles they are able to play off the bench without being counted on as starters.

Since they and McGee are all trade chips I say start Lively earlier than you are thinking.

WHY?

Because that will make the other assets look better since they will be coming off the bench and facing bench talents instead of starters that make them all look like crappy defenders. If Lively thrives enough to not be a net negative then I think he can be counted on to start and learn on the job and that will keep the crappy old guys on the bench which will only help us make them look better than they are.

Now we can find it easier to trade them and get something better back.

If we can do that then packaging THJ with any of our old big guys that are on the trade block should be enough to help us find a more useful big guy at the TDL. The key to selling off trash is by not letting it play against players that you know will kill them and make them look like the trash they are. If you let them play as a starter it will destroy their trade value. Far better to keep the image of that epic failure waiting to happen away from the court and out of other GM's memory.

We need to sell them after showing how great they are against bench talent. Hopefully they do not blow it and suck against them too.

Only guys I want back in trade are 6'11 or larger. All this talk about Capella is fine just do not get him on this team he is not who he used to be and he is on the down hill now. Ditto J Allen.

We have one more spot on the roster and I would not just cut McGee to clear space. McGee has rings and if we want to show what is possible and make the rest of the team believe that we can win it all then a guy like him with rings is proof that it can happen.

[Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo]

Satisfied with the off-season.

Nico gets a B so far.
He gets a B+ if THJ gets traded and the Mavs still keep the 27 pick.
Elevates to an A- if McGee is traded too just using 1 of the SRPs.
Gets an A if PJ Washington or a stop gap C like Olynyk gets to be a Mav (again without using the 27 pick).
Gets an A+ if he gets someone or something out of a Wood SNT on top of it all.

I'm excited for this season.
But I'm not optimistic JKidd would know what to do with the roster.
I'm just hopeful, his ineptness isn't too much of a hindrance to this team, and the guys on the court finds a way to win despite of the HC.

[RGP1981]

Satisfied with the off-season.

Nico gets a B so far.
He gets a B+ if THJ gets traded and the Mavs still keep the 27 pick.
Elevates to an A- if McGee is traded too just using 1 of the SRPs.
Gets an A if PJ Washington or a stop gap C like Olynyk gets to be a Mav (again without using the 27 pick).
Gets an A+ if he gets someone or something out of a Wood SNT on top of it all.

I'm excited for this season.

This.  

Satisfied with the off-season thus far, definitely a more productive one than many past off-seasons... but do not feel the team as constructed can overcome the Nuggets, Suns or Lakers if all 4 teams are healthy in the playoffs. They might be on par with the Kings, depending on how GWill and O-Max perform. The West is going to be so tough... with Clippers, OKC, Memphis, Warriors, Minny and Pels to consider too.

[chaparral]

Are you satisfied with the offseason (so far)? No...

Love what they did with the draft. Kudos to the new guy Dennis Lindsey.

But Cuban has his hand on this offseason (so far) in resigning his Bromance buddy Powell. And as of today, Powell looks to be the best starting Center candidate the Mavs have on the roster. Did anyone pick Powell in Dan's questionnaire? That alone tells me the Mavs should receive a poor grade for the offseason. Oh wait, Mavs Fans favorite word every summer is Hope. I Hope Holmes returns to his 2020/21 season with a change of scenery. Or I Hope rookie Lively can play 20 minutes a game this season. HOPE.

I do like resigning Kyrie to under 40 mil this season. I HOPE Kidd and the new coaching staff can integrate them into a new system where it is not just your time / my time.

I do not understand the early signing of Curry if we can't / don't have plans to trade Hardaway. I think Grant Williams is a DFS replacement, so there is a wash there. Don't understand why we offered Thybulle less than the full MLE - new CBA hard capped rules or dose Cuban want to stay under the LT?

Right now I see the Mavs like this:

C: Powell - Lively - Holmes - McGee
PF: Doncic - Kleber - Prosper
SF: Williams - Hardaway
SG: Green - Curry/Hardy
PG: Irving - Exum

I'm listing Luka at PF because he is our best rebounder. Mavs have yet to address this need this offseason - as well as the past few years. As for shot blocking, all we have is Hope in Holmes and rookie Lively.

Can Grant cover other teams SF's? And is the signing of Curry going to take minutes away from Hardy? And one last hope, Hope Green takes the next step.

OK, I lied about one last hope, I Hope the Mavs have another trade lined up for later this summer.

[Mavs2021]

Are you satisfied with the offseason (so far)?  No...

Love what they did with the draft.  Kudos to the new guy Dennis Lindsey. 

But Cuban has his hand on this offseason (so far) in resigning his Bromance buddy Powell.  And as of today, Powell looks to be the best starting Center candidate the Mavs have on the roster.  Did anyone pick Powell in Dan's questionnaire?  That alone tells me the Mavs should receive a poor grade for the offseason.  Oh wait, Mavs Fans favorite word every summer is Hope.  I Hope Holmes returns to his 2020/21 season with a change of scenery.  Or I Hope rookie Lively can play 20 minutes a game this season.  HOPE.

I do like resigning Kyrie to under 40 mil this season.  I HOPE Kidd and the new coaching staff can integrate them into a new system where it is not just your time / my time.

I do not understand the early signing of Curry if we can't / don't have plans to trade Hardaway.  I think Grant Williams is a DFS replacement, so there is a wash there.  Don't understand why we offered Thybulle less than the full MLE - new CBA hard capped rules or dose Cuban want to stay under the LT?

Right now I see the Mavs like this:

C:  Powell - Lively - Holmes - McGee
PF:  Doncic - Kleber - Prosper
SF:  Williams - Hardaway
SG:  Green - Curry/Hardy
PG:  Irving - Exum

I'm listing Luka at PF because he is our best rebounder.  Mavs have yet to address this need this offseason - as well as the past few years.  As for shot blocking, all we have is Hope in Holmes and rookie Lively.

Can Grant cover other teams SF's?  And is the signing of Curry going to take minutes away from Hardy?  And one last hope, Hope Green takes the next step.

OK, I lied about one last hope, I Hope the Mavs have another trade lined up for later this summer.

I think that´s a fair evaulation, if you thought this was another 12 months job, which imho it never was.

I´d give them a B-/C+ ish grade for now, that has more potential to move up than down, depending on what else happens. I´d be most digusted, if they cannot land a perceived difference-maker and then opt to round out the roster with some Gay veterans. That would again suggest they have not understood the goal of this season. Whether they acquire a Jalen Smith or pick up a Pokusevski instead of another walking win now retirement home, won´t alter their ceiling next season significantly, but it would suggest they severely overrate their own moves again.

I´m pretty confident they´ll be in the 7-12 range again. 

We´ll once again talk about tank or no tank to save the 10th pick another year. I watched the top 3 prospects from next year and two looked very meh anyway.

[DanSchwartzgan]

 
Love what they did with the draft.  Kudos to the new guy Dennis Lindsey. 

None of 'knows' how this player or that player (here or elsewhere) is going to perform.  So, the thing to evaluate isn't necessarily who we got, but how smart and clever we were in getting them.  I happen to like both players, but we simply can't know right now what they will be.  With that said, I agree....I love this draft.

I do like resigning Kyrie to under 40 mil this season.  

This was huge and seems to be underappreciated when people determine their grades.  Like the draft, the terms here are better than any of us imagined.
 
Right now I see the Mavs like this:

C:  Powell - Lively - Holmes - McGee
PF:  Doncic - Kleber - Prosper
SF:  Williams - Hardaway
SG:  Green - Curry/Hardy
PG:  Irving - Exum

I'm listing Luka at PF because he is our best rebounder.  Mavs have yet to address this need this offseason - as well as the past few years.   Can Grant cover other teams SF's? 

It is  probably immaterial whether we carry Luka or Williams at PF.  Williams will cover the harder of the two matchups and Luka will take the easier of the two.  Same with Green and Irving.  The beauty of what we have (even at center) is a highly switchable team D, with Josh and GWill both being outstanding shooters from the perimeter who can put the ball on the floor, finish at the rim or pass on the move.  The total games that GWill and Green have are vastly superior to the total games of Reggie and DFS.   

And one last hope, Hope Green takes the next step.

I see this "Josh needs to take a leap" stuff and I think it is flat wrong.  Josh needs to get minutes.  When he does he has always been more productive.  Last season he played 30+ minutes in 18 games.  He scored 15 points on .700+ TS%, pulled down 4.6 boards, dished 2.8 assists, hit 46% of his 3's and was massively positive +/- at +8.7.  The staffer who reportedly said the 'best thing about trading Reggie' is that Kidd can't play him any more was right.  Green will not be our problem.

OK, I lied about one last hope, I Hope the Mavs have another trade lined up for later this summer.

It seems we don't really have a preference when it comes to the position we are interested in acquiring.  There's been noise regarding a C (Capela and even Ayton at the draft), a PF (PJ), a SF who is largely an offensive player (Bojan) and a SF who is largely a defensive player (Thybulle).  It seems the team is more about getting rid of (while getting value for) THJ and McGee than they are filling any perceived hole.

C:   Holmes - Powell -          Lively -                    McGee
PF:  Doncic - Kleber -           Prosper
SF:  Williams - Hardaway
SG:  Green - Curry               Hardy
PG:  Irving -                        Exum

This is more how I see it.  Note that I've got the three kids (and unproven Exum) outside the nine man playoff rotation.  They will all get time during the regular season, but will have to prove something with that time to be serious parts of a playoff rotation.  I think it is an open question as to whether Hardy will pass Curry in terms of a playoff rotation by the time we get there (which answers the question of why is Curry here).  We are anxious for Hardy to be the star we hope he will be.  The team recognizes he's a baby and needs a real NBA player (but not necessarily a star) playing in front of him).

Maybe not day one, but I suspect Holmes will start more games than Powell when all is said and done.  Having both (and I've already said I think Maxi closes games) allows them to bring Lively along slowly (maybe at a similar pace to Hardy last year).  I'm a follower of the career of Holmes and have tried to fantasy trade for him for years.  I think he will prove to be just fine.  In fact, I'm not sure center is the place I would invest significant assets into (especially if THJ is outgoing).

To the question asked by the OP, I think there is a difference between a 'grade' and 'satisfaction'.  I grade the offseason as an A+.  Everything they did was so much better than I expected.  I love getting Lively and OMax.  Williams fits like a glove IMHO.  I do think Holmes is going to be much better than most perceive and that Powell will excel (like he always has) in a more limited role.  As mentioned, the terms of the Kyrie deal were fantastic.  I love that we got rid of Bertans and Reggie while acquiring real players and second round picks (I think the 2028 second is an underrated, yet important event).  All of that isn't free, but the 2030 pick swap (and whatever the hell we did moving around second rounders) seems a small price for what we got.  All of that is just BRILLIANT to me and we got significantly younger.   I have no issue with staying under the tax this year....A+

But, am I 'satisfied'?  No.  I'm never satisfied and it isn't helped by Stein's insistence there is more coming.  So, I'm not going to lock this answer in until I see what happens (and even if something happens, I will scheme toward the next move proving I'm still not satisfied).  The O/U at 45.5 wins would have been 4th in the West last season.  I see us as a 4-7 team if things go well (which fits the O/U).  I don't think it requires much 'hope'.  We have two Top 20 players.  The role playing starters are going to be just fine and the next 4 bench guys and the 3 super young guys behind them give us a good blend of experienced hands (Powell, Maxi, THJ, Curry) with exciting youngsters (Lively, OMax and Hardy).  I think we are better than a play-in team right now, but 'hope' there is one more move up our sleeves just like everyone else.

[KillerLeft]

C:   Holmes - Powell -          Lively -                    McGee
PF:  Doncic - Kleber -           Prosper
SF:  Williams - Hardaway
SG:  Green - Curry               Hardy
PG:  Irving -                        Exum

This is more how I see it.  Note that I've got the three kids (and unproven Exum) outside the nine man playoff rotation.  They will all get time during the regular season, but will have to prove something with that time to be serious parts of a playoff rotation.  I think it is an open question as to whether Hardy will pass Curry in terms of a playoff rotation by the time we get there (which answers the question of why is Curry here).  We are anxious for Hardy to be the star we hope he will be.  The team recognizes he's a baby and needs a real NBA player (but not necessarily a star) playing in front of him).

Maybe not day one, but I suspect Holmes will start more games than Powell when all is said and done.  Having both (and I've already said I think Maxi closes games) allows them to bring Lively along slowly (maybe at a similar pace to Hardy last year).  I'm a follower of the career of Holmes and have tried to fantasy trade for him for years.  I think he will prove to be just fine.  In fact, I'm not sure center is the place I would invest significant assets into (especially if THJ is outgoing).

To the question asked by the OP, I think there is a difference between a 'grade' and 'satisfaction'.  I grade the offseason as an A+.  Everything they did was so much better than I expected.  I love getting Lively and OMax.  Williams fits like a glove IMHO.  I do think Holmes is going to be much better than most perceive and that Powell will excel (like he always has) in a more limited role.  As mentioned, the terms of the Kyrie deal were fantastic.  I love that we got rid of Bertans and Reggie while acquiring real players and second round picks (I think the 2028 second is an underrated, yet important event).  All of that isn't free, but the 2030 pick swap (and whatever the hell we did moving around second rounders) seems a small price for what we got.  All of that is just BRILLIANT to me and we got significantly younger.   I have no issue with staying under the tax this year....A+

But, am I 'satisfied'?  No.  I'm never satisfied and it isn't helped by Stein's insistence there is more coming.  So, I'm not going to lock this answer in until I see what happens (and even if something happens, I will scheme toward the next move proving I'm still not satisfied).  The O/U at 45.5 wins would have been 4th in the West last season.  I see us as a 4-7 team if things go well (which fits the O/U).  I don't think it requires much 'hope'.  We have two Top 20 players.  The role playing starters are going to be just fine and the next 4 bench guys and the 3 super young guys behind them give us a good blend of experienced hands (Powell, Maxi, THJ, Curry) with exciting youngsters (Lively, OMax and Hardy).  I think we are better than a play-in team right now, but 'hope' there is one more move up our sleeves just like everyone else.

Greatness.

Agree with all of this, except the Holmes playing more than Powell stuff. I agree with your overall points with that, I just have slightly more faith in Powell, relative to Holmes, while you seem to lean the opposite way. I agree with your overall assessment of both and the center situation with them combined. Ultimately, if we're right, it won't really matter which one starts or even which one plays more. They are very similar players in most ways, and having two of them makes it far more likely they can get to the Kleber minutes comfortably. Most of all, between the THREE of them, they aren't in a situation where they must play Lively when they don't want to, which is obviously ideal for both the team and him, short term. No need to throw assets at center just to get another body, as you say. 

I also think they're probably writing Omax into their rotation projections, at least in pencil, hoping he can play significant minutes this year. He's old for a rookie, seems pretty polished for the role he'll have for pretty much the duration of his rookie contract, and he's just an animal they don't have anywhere else on the roster. Could be dead wrong about this, but I see guys at that size in that role being the spot they're thinnest, which plays into my gut feelings about this. I just don't think they have another dude behind Williams who can do what's needed if Omax is out of the rotation. 

Totally agree with your point about Curry and Hardy. Personally, I think THJ (if he's here) is going to play a crap ton of minutes, but Curry sure does look like the third ball-handler right now.

The best part is that if it works out this way, there are attractive options with potential lying in wait for any eventuality: injuries, trades, DUI's...whatever.

[DanSchwartzgan]

I agree with your overall assessment of both and the center situation with them combined. Ultimately, if we're right, it won't really matter which one starts or even which one plays more. 

Most of all, between the THREE of them, they aren't in a situation where they must play Lively when they don't want to, which is obviously ideal for both the team and him, short term. No need to throw assets at center just to get another body, as you say. 

I also think they're probably writing Omax into their rotation projections, at least in pencil, hoping he can play significant minutes this year.  

Totally agree with your point about Curry and Hardy. Personally, I think THJ (if he's here) is going to play a crap ton of minutes, but Curry sure does look like the third ball-handler right now.
 

Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.  None of this means Lively/OMax/Hardy won't play or aren't important.  It just means there is a nine man rotation that makes sense without hurrying any of them.  

Could Lively overtake Powell by season end (my view of Holmes/Powell)?  Absolutely.  But, you could do a lot worse than Powell/Maxi as your backup C's.  

Could OMax force his way into a playoff rotation?  Absolutely.  If Maxi is closing at Center and we need more D than THJ provides, OMax would be a welcome addition.  I think you have to watch what the O looks like with him on the floor.  He doesn't have to hit 38% of his 3's as a rookie.  But, he can't crush the offense when he's out there either.  His ability to beat closeouts and finish well will get him regular season minutes.  Converting open 3's in addition to that 'might' get him playoff minutes.

I don't think we have a Curry vs. Hardy thing if THJ is moved.  But, if he's here, it gets kind of crowded at the position those guys all fulfill.  Ideally, THJ outgoing would bring back a two-way starter (at almost any position).  If that player was clearly an upgrade from Green to where Green is pushed to the bench resulting in a bench like this: 

Powell or Maxi
OMax
Green
Hardy or Curry
Luka or Kyrie
 
then this team makes great sense to me.  Does that two way player that pushes Josh to the bench have to happen by October?  Probably not.  Even without him, I'd make the case that compared to the WCF team:  

Holmes > Powell, 
Kyrie > Brunson, 
Green > Reggie, 
Williams > DFS (some of those margins are substantial and some...like DFS...are closer).  

We haven't replaced Dinwiddie yet but we have THJ, Curry and Hardy as candidates.  Oh, and I haven't even mentioned Lively and OMax in the comparison to the WCF team.  That is a significant transition of players and we didn't sacrifice youth to do it.  BTW, SD played well in his 28 minutes per game in the playoffs, but his minutes were a net negative during that run.  So, replacing those minutes isn't impossible.

[hakeemfaan]

Are you satisfied with the offseason (so far)?  No...

Love what they did with the draft.  Kudos to the new guy Dennis Lindsey. 

But Cuban has his hand on this offseason (so far) in resigning his Bromance buddy Powell.  And as of today, Powell looks to be the best starting Center candidate the Mavs have on the roster.  Did anyone pick Powell in Dan's questionnaire?  That alone tells me the Mavs should receive a poor grade for the offseason.  Oh wait, Mavs Fans favorite word every summer is Hope.  I Hope Holmes returns to his 2020/21 season with a change of scenery.  Or I Hope rookie Lively can play 20 minutes a game this season.  HOPE.

I do like resigning Kyrie to under 40 mil this season.  I HOPE Kidd and the new coaching staff can integrate them into a new system where it is not just your time / my time.

I do not understand the early signing of Curry if we can't / don't have plans to trade Hardaway.  I think Grant Williams is a DFS replacement, so there is a wash there.  Don't understand why we offered Thybulle less than the full MLE - new CBA hard capped rules or dose Cuban want to stay under the LT?

Right now I see the Mavs like this:

C:  Powell - Lively - Holmes - McGee
PF:  Doncic - Kleber - Prosper
SF:  Williams - Hardaway
SG:  Green - Curry/Hardy
PG:  Irving - Exum

I'm listing Luka at PF because he is our best rebounder.  Mavs have yet to address this need this offseason - as well as the past few years.  As for shot blocking, all we have is Hope in Holmes and rookie Lively.

Can Grant cover other teams SF's?  And is the signing of Curry going to take minutes away from Hardy?  And one last hope, Hope Green takes the next step.

OK, I lied about one last hope, I Hope the Mavs have another trade lined up for later this summer.

Well said.  I can’t get over the fact that they had the #10 pick and whatever you think of the draft day moves their main pick was a project defensive center.  Either take a player who can play right away or if banking on future potential and willing to take a chance go for a skill position.  

As for majority on this board liking these moves we have seen this time and again. Get excited in the off-season and then once the regular season starts have the excuses as to what anyone expected from a #10 pick or a Dwight Powell or a Curry.