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[mvossman]

I looked up his stats with the Aussies. Mediocre at best. Not getting lots of minutes. His plus/minus is awful (the worst on the team, I think). None of that is what we should expect if he was making a real impact. And it's vs an even lower level of competition than NBA.

My point about searching for shots is not about hoisting shots wildly, or in mass quantities, but rather about ALWAYS being in attack mode, so that the other team has to play you honest. And making plays for yourself too, and taking the shots when you have them. His passive mode, waiting for only the most perfect shot, and then declining some of those, makes it harder for everyone else, and makes it easier on the other team who only have to worry about defending 4.

"Player X is a good defender" is easy to assume and claim, but how true it is can be fuzzy to validate. With Green I see energy, he stays with the offensive player, but I don't see a superior number of plays being made that end possessions. And I don't think that any player is really special defensively without that. 

The comparisons to Bullock, I find those meaningless. Bullock is not on the team. If that's a money comparison, we paid Bullock MLE for his best, we liked Bullock at his best, he made plays, and he was good value with that play. We hated him at his worst, and sent him down the road when we didn't keep getting his best. I'm hoping to see them apply that same standard to Green, who could provide a reasonable replacement for 'Bullock at his best' if we're lucky. That's an MLE guy. But I'm saying let's not pretend Green's shown himself to be more than that, because he hasn't.

Green probably gets compared to Bullock due to the fact its the only decent MLE signing this team has made in the recent past.  Thats the bar.  Would you rather spend the MLE on a 30 year old Bullock (when we did) or the equivalent extension for a 22 year old Green.  In my mind its not really that close.  We got more from Bullock in his first year (second half) than I expected, and less in his second.  I expect roughly the same from Green with way more upside potential.  He is only 22 and has improved every year in the league.  Call me skeptical that we could do better (or even as good) as Green with the MLE next offseason when you take into account his age and growth potential.  The fact he will be restricted will depress his value some (although maybe not as much now that its only 24 hour wait time) which is why I figure roughly MLE is about right price.