09-02-2023, 02:02 PM
The problem I have with Green is his elevation to must-have status, which would assume at whatever the price it will take. If he has a modest salary (80-100% of the MLE), I think that's the top of the range for a player like him. But jump into a higher range, and I am really leery of him playing up to that contract, much less proving to be a good value.
Price does impact desirability. We ALWAYS see players through the lens of their contract, because it impacts what else the team can do, and it also determines how easily he can be traded if need be.
I keep getting strawmanned by people arguing against my points by saying "he doesn't need to be a star" even though I have never argued that (nor is anyone else). At the right price, he can be a useful role player with the limits of his play. But will he be signed at the right price for that level of play? And will we ever get much more production than where he already is? It feels like the answer to both of those is that we have to pay whatever it takes and we see no real jump in his production, and I'm saying that needs to be seen realistically rather than with the pie-in-the-sky approach of "oh, he'll get way better, he has 'potential' " attitude.
Price does impact desirability. We ALWAYS see players through the lens of their contract, because it impacts what else the team can do, and it also determines how easily he can be traded if need be.
I keep getting strawmanned by people arguing against my points by saying "he doesn't need to be a star" even though I have never argued that (nor is anyone else). At the right price, he can be a useful role player with the limits of his play. But will he be signed at the right price for that level of play? And will we ever get much more production than where he already is? It feels like the answer to both of those is that we have to pay whatever it takes and we see no real jump in his production, and I'm saying that needs to be seen realistically rather than with the pie-in-the-sky approach of "oh, he'll get way better, he has 'potential' " attitude.