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[mvossman]

Then what would it take for J.Allen?

J.Allen would be an amazing trade chip 3rd season in.  If Lively is ready to take the reins, you trade J.Allen for our largest need at that time.  If Lively is a bust, you have a still 27yo J.Allen.  Contending now and building for the future isn't mutually exclusive with a 25yo top-10 defensive big.  You're creating a false dilemma fallacy.

I am not creating a false dilemma fallacy.  We have very limited assets and spending a large majority of them on two players that can't share the court together is a misallocation of resources.  

I'm not sure what it would take for Allen.  I'm not convinced he is on the block.  Probably at least the first and one of the kids.