01-15-2023, 11:08 AM
(01-14-2023, 07:40 PM)sterlingmallory Wrote: The Mavs FO had every chance in the world to keep Brunson. I don't understand why people want to keep rationalizing and letting them off the hook.
They probably cancelled the last meeting in NY because he and his agent already knew where the Mavs stood on their contract offer. It's not like they had never talked before. Do people honestly believe that meeting in NY was the only chance the Mavs had to make an offer? That's ridiculous. They couldn't call or text his agent? Lol. There's no point in meeting again when they wouldn't even come close to the AAV that the Knicks were offering.
- They get his initial contract right, he'd still be a Mav
- They offer him the extension before he clearly starts to take off, he'd still be a Mav
- They offer him more than 5/110 in free agency and I think there's a great chance he'd still be a Mav
Blah blah blah his dad works for the Knicks, he only wanted to play for the Knicks, those are all just bullshit excuses designed to let the idiots running this team off the hook. Money talks. They made it pretty damn easy to choose the Knicks when they lowballed him. Cuban the dolt bragged about not being worried because the Mavs could offer the most money and then proceeded to not offer the most money when it actually came down to it.
Yeah, lets see how badly Brunson actually wants to be a Knick if we offered like 5/130 or something like that. Considering Tyler Herro got 4/130 and Jordan Poole got 4/120, 5/130 for Brunson or maybe even a little bit more isn't so bad. Don't tell me he wouldn't be worth that because he's averaging 22ppg and is probably going to be an all star this year, and anyone with eyes should have been able to see that coming. I sure as hell could see it, especially that Utah series that Luka missed most of. The cap is about to spike and he'd be like 30 at the end of a theoretical 5 year deal. It wouldn't have been that bad, certainly not as bad as just letting him go for nothing despite being capped out.
No, Mark Cuban is a moron and bears full responsibility for Brunson leaving, just like he does for Nash leaving and for Tyson leaving. That kind of history and people still want to say it's not the FO's fault that Brunson left? Please.
You are making statements of fact that I don't think are so certain.
If they gave Brunson a typical contract, he would have been a restricted free agent the prior season. The Nicks were already coveting him and have shown a willingness to clear cap space to get him. Suppose they give him a 15 mil AAV offer sheet at that time. Brunson was a backup point guard who disappeared in the playoffs. A lot of folks on the board did not think he was worth a max extension and I think more of us would have choked on 15 per at that point in time. I could easily an S&T situation then, and the return would have been limited.
There is no question in hindsight that the Mavs should have offered Brunson the max extension last offseason, but there was speculation even then that Brunson would not have taken it. Guys like Followell and others made suggest they thought Brunson wanted the chance to run his own team and would never have it with the Mavs.
As Cow said above, I don't think the Mavs win a bidding war with the Nicks, and its not just because I think he wanted to run his own team and his daddy was in the organizations. Brunson will be more valuable running the Nicks than playing off guard to Luka on the Mavs. Not only does it make sense for Nicks number to be higher than Mavs number, it makes sense for Brunson from a long term perspective to maximize his value with Nicks for his next contract.
The point is not to "let the Mavs off the hook". I have always argued that they bungled the situation from an asset perspective. I just don't think there was much chance of Brunson being a long term Mav. If they had managed to get him on that extension, its very likely they would have traded him by now.