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I find the forum's views on Green interesting.

While I don't think he's a bad player, or someone the Mavs need to move, I don't see him as a must-keep core piece.

For all the talk that he's going to be so super in the years ahead, I just don't see it. Part of the issue is that his progress (when it comes) is in teeny tiny steps. In fact, he's gone backwards this year.

I know many think he was a "bargain-priced" player, and like him because of that, but he signed at about where I thought he would (based on how valuable I thought he was), so I don't get any warm fuzzies over him here as a supposed "bargain" player (which may be part of why I see him differently than most seem to). Not sure he is, and even think he might be a bit overpaid, although I'm not griping about the deal he got.

His reticence to shoot is showing no signs of going away - in fact, it's gotten worse this year. And his shooting efficiency has gone from superior to mediocre.

He is helpful in some areas, like being active and being a pest on defense, but even his defense is meh-ish (per BR, he's the 11th best Mav as a defender).

To me, he's the SG/SF version of Powell -- his hustle and can-do attitude makes him a usable player, but his ceiling is so low because of all the things he does not do. 

It also concerns me that Kidd praises him for not scoring points. I understand the desire to make your players feel good, but I think it sends the wrong message to give him a pat on the butt for the crap part of his game. As for whether that issue can be resolved, I'm beginning to think it cannot. More and more I am coming to believe what we see is all we will ever get.

I am seeing this perspective more and more. 

I do think, like Green's biggest fans, that some of what he brings to the table doesn't show up in the box score. The thing is, now that there are multiple motor/energy guys in the rotation, some of those things Green does aren't seeming so special all of a sudden. 

The awkward "do I shoot, drive or pass here" vibes he excretes constantly get more and more annoying as we go. I haven't given up on him getting better with that stuff, but there are options available now that don't need to improve their decision making so much. 

The thing that's really starting to bother me is that the thing we all just assume he's good at, DEFENSE, doesn't seem like something he's all that good at to me. I have definitely seen him make some great defensive plays and have some sound defensive possessions. I know there are metrics that will tell us he's impactful on defense. Idk...he just seems awkward out there to me. 

I thought he would settle into a role once he got paid, and maybe he still will. Shrug. I want him to figure some things out, because he's fast, can handle, can shoot and plays hard.