11-10-2023, 10:39 AM
(11-10-2023, 10:20 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: At the end of the day the problem with Rick is that he is an asshole who grates on his locker room so much that eventually they tune him out (or worse they give up completely).
It's happened at every single stop. There is no arguing against Carlisle's X's and O's. He probably has a good case to be top 10 all time in that regard. But there is more to coaching than just a game plan and I don't think it's a coincidence that Kidd has taken this team further than Carlisle had since 2011.
I also highly HIGHLY doubt Carlisle would be able to manage Kyrie.
Also RC hasn't been a top 5 coach for years now.
1. Spolestra
2. Kerr
3. Mike Malone
4. Ty Lue
5. Pop
Are all pretty clearly ahead of him. Then you got guys like Nick Nurse, Taylor Jenkins, and even Mark Daignault.
RC is a better coach than Mike Malone and Ty Lue. Carlisle has overachieved with three different franchises. He's proven much more than either Ty Lue and Malone. Malone has won with the league's greatest player and maybe the league's best starting five. Ty Lue has frankly underachieved with the Clipper's roster (lots of injuries contributed) I'm also not really sure how great Steve Kerr is. I think he's a good coach but he's also had one of the greatest rosters of the 21st century during his tenure. They've had a massive advantage due to their ownership's willingness to spend without limit. Carlisle has won with some really subpar rosters at four different stops.
The young coaches you mention all seem like really talented coaches. They haven't proven enough though to make a top-5 list. I think Udoka also should be on that list of great young coaches as well.
RC might be an asshole but there is not a better word to describe Jason Kidd than asshole. The difference is RC is also a good coach. Kidd is not.