07-26-2021, 05:51 PM
(07-24-2021, 06:01 AM)F Gump Wrote: A sign-and-trade sure feels like the most desirable path if Dallas wants to pursue Collins.Interesting...glad we have some cap experts on the board! I'm working on educating myself more on these types of rules/requirements
But in an over-cap deal, the salary match would be complicated, because Collins in a sign-and-trade would be a "base year" player, ie the Hawks would only get 50% of his salary counted for matching purposes (whereas for Dallas, it would count 100%). It's not nearly as easy as "match a max salary and call it a day."
While it can be solved by adding more salary in a 2-way deal (at least another ~10.5M outgoing by the Hawks), or finding a 3rd team to take some outgoing salary from the Mavs, neither of those options are all that easy, because you end up with added issues of trying to stay within the limits of what each team really wants to give up, while also dealing with appropriate compensation for all teams involved.
The only alternatives force the Mavs to clear cap space, and shoot for Collins via the RFA waiting game, or getting ATL to take some limited compensation in a cap-room sign-and-trade that might include some salary going to ATL, but not more than 17.5M.
I spent too much time staring at my screen to just not post this so here is where I ended up. The more I look at this, I see why F Gump said that this isn't very easy...especially because in the end, Dallas will have to provide compensation if there is a 3rd team involved. I'm just starting to really dive into the cap rules behind trades, and from what I can tell it looks like the biggest issue here is the requirement to add additional outgoing salary froIm the Hawks. Looking at players under contract for Atlanta, I don't see a realistic path to having them send out the additional 10.5M they need. That means, Atlanta would have to S&T another one of their players in order to have their outgoing salary line up. So let's assume Dallas is looking to stay over-the-cap in order to retain THJ and the full MLE. Dallas would have an incoming salary for Collins at $28M while Atlanta would only have an outgoing salary of $14M.
If Dallas "knows" before FA that they can work a deal with Atlanta for Collins, would it be beneficial to have JRich ($11.6mil) pick up his option, and pick up the TO on WCS ($4.1mil) in order to add them to Maxi ($8.7mil) as part of a S&T?
At this point, Dallas would have an outgoing salary of $24.4M and incoming of $28M. Atlanta would have an incoming of $24.4M, but only an outgoing of $14M.
In order for Atlanta to have an incoming salary of $24.4M, they have to send out at least $19.5M. BYC only applies to players "...if a team re-signs its Larry Bird or Early Bird free agent in order to trade the player in a sign-and-trade transaction, the player's new salary is greater than the minimum, he receives a raise greater than 20%, and the team is at or above the cap immediately after the signing, then the player's outgoing salary for trade purposes is either his previous salary or 50% of his new salary, whichever is greater." So, does this not apply to Lou Will or Snell if their deals are not 20% greater than what they made last season? If that's the case, then either player could be signed to a deal worth no less than $5.5 million in the first (guaranteed) season in order for Atlanta to meet the minimum $19.5M outgoing salary needed to match the $24.4M incoming. Whoever they sign for $5.5M could be sent to a third team with cap space (OKC) or TPE (Boston? Orlando?). If LouWill and/or Snell are not exempt from BYC on a deal worth 5.5M, then I'm running low on ideas here... maybe there is a place for Burke ($3.1mil) somewhere here if a third team is needed?
I'm tired now and will have to come back and revisit later/make revisions if my understanding of BYC and salary restrictions were wrong...but it doesn't sound as easy as it once did to acquire Collins via S&T