03-01-2022, 08:00 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-01-2022, 08:20 AM by DanSchwartzgan.)
Updated lineup numbers as we are now two months into our run of really good play:
In four games (3 wins), SD has a double digit positive net rating with every player on the team except Powell and Bullock. Powell makes sense as both do most of their scoring in the same space. Bullock and SD have only shared the floor in two of their four games, so the sample is smaller and contained in games that had some really rough stretches.
Interestingly, Bertans has a double digit positive net rating with everyone he's played more than 9 minutes with except Powell.
If you go back to 12/30, when this bit of really good play began, it is hard to find bad two man lineups. Powell with Luka and Powell with Brunson is much better than Maxi with either guard. Maxi and Powell together has not been good during this time (it has been good in the past under a different system).
Hardaway played in 13 games during this run before he got hurt. It was hit and miss in terms of lineup data. He was double digit positive when on court with Luka, Bullock, Green and Maxi. He was +1.1 with Brunson, +0.3 with DFS, +2.0 with Powell. Those last three are among the lowest two man ratings during this two month period.
If you move up to three man lineups, the thing that stand out is the O really suffers in the following lineups:
Maxi/DFS/Brunson
Maxi/DFS/Luka (the only negative net rating in the top 17 lineups)
Maxi/Brunson/Luka
There are three negative Net Ratings among the top 16 four man lineups used during this period. Maxi is in the most used lineup (Maxi/DFS/Brunson/Luka) which is -0.4. The other two negative lineups include both Maxi and Powell together. The issue in all of the bad four man lineups is the O kind of dies.
That last part is an important point. Pre-trade, D was routinely great and we were good unless the O sputtered. Post trade, D is routinely bad and the O is consistently better. The four game average O/D ratings are 121.5/117.2 (1st/27th). For the full season it is 110.9/107.3 (16th/(5th). From 12/30 until now is has been 113.9/105.4 (12th/2nd)
We've been playing good teams during this four game stretch and the rhythm has been disrupted by the AS break, but probably the biggest thing to watch is whether we can recapture our defensive prowess while maintaining the offensive numbers the new guys are helping us generate. If that is the case, then Hardaway returning isn't a help. Green provides more of what we need. I think the numbers also confirm the eye test conclusion that neither of our centers should be starting. Both would probably make fine backups, but neither has enough to carry the position against the good front court players on playoff teams.
In four games (3 wins), SD has a double digit positive net rating with every player on the team except Powell and Bullock. Powell makes sense as both do most of their scoring in the same space. Bullock and SD have only shared the floor in two of their four games, so the sample is smaller and contained in games that had some really rough stretches.
Interestingly, Bertans has a double digit positive net rating with everyone he's played more than 9 minutes with except Powell.
If you go back to 12/30, when this bit of really good play began, it is hard to find bad two man lineups. Powell with Luka and Powell with Brunson is much better than Maxi with either guard. Maxi and Powell together has not been good during this time (it has been good in the past under a different system).
Hardaway played in 13 games during this run before he got hurt. It was hit and miss in terms of lineup data. He was double digit positive when on court with Luka, Bullock, Green and Maxi. He was +1.1 with Brunson, +0.3 with DFS, +2.0 with Powell. Those last three are among the lowest two man ratings during this two month period.
If you move up to three man lineups, the thing that stand out is the O really suffers in the following lineups:
Maxi/DFS/Brunson
Maxi/DFS/Luka (the only negative net rating in the top 17 lineups)
Maxi/Brunson/Luka
There are three negative Net Ratings among the top 16 four man lineups used during this period. Maxi is in the most used lineup (Maxi/DFS/Brunson/Luka) which is -0.4. The other two negative lineups include both Maxi and Powell together. The issue in all of the bad four man lineups is the O kind of dies.
That last part is an important point. Pre-trade, D was routinely great and we were good unless the O sputtered. Post trade, D is routinely bad and the O is consistently better. The four game average O/D ratings are 121.5/117.2 (1st/27th). For the full season it is 110.9/107.3 (16th/(5th). From 12/30 until now is has been 113.9/105.4 (12th/2nd)
We've been playing good teams during this four game stretch and the rhythm has been disrupted by the AS break, but probably the biggest thing to watch is whether we can recapture our defensive prowess while maintaining the offensive numbers the new guys are helping us generate. If that is the case, then Hardaway returning isn't a help. Green provides more of what we need. I think the numbers also confirm the eye test conclusion that neither of our centers should be starting. Both would probably make fine backups, but neither has enough to carry the position against the good front court players on playoff teams.
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