(08-31-2021, 11:14 AM)fifteenth Wrote: My view is that it's impossible to view Kidd as the better coach. This is a Young Coach vs HOF Coach comparison. It's a no-brainer if the discussion is "who is the better coach?"
However, if the discussion is "who is the better coach for the Mavs going forward?", then I think the answer has to be "wait and see". There are at least some rumblings that Rick and the team (players) both needed a change. There are rumblings that Luka and Rick weren't a great fit. It's possible that Kidd was humbled by his early career coaching failures, that he learned a good bit from Vogel and that he'll be able to correct his mistakes. I'ts possble that Kidd has grown and that he now has some tools that will allow him to use his savant like powers for good, and for the benefit of Luka and the Mavs.
All of that will have to be answered by the future. Rick is obviosly the better coach, right now, and in a vacuum. My take on whether Kidd will be a good coach this season for the Mavs is "I don't know".
That all makes sense to me.
It seemed to me that you had raised the possibility that there is no objective argument to be made that the Mavs could have gotten worse (other than based on speculative stuff that hasn't happened). I just replied (or at least intended to reply) that, if they have an objectively worse coach, then I can see how that argument exists.
Agree that whether Kidd is the better coach for the Mavs at this time is TBD. On paper, that would seem to be a glass-half-full point of view, which is way more fun than the alternative!
Have I understood your point?
(08-31-2021, 11:17 AM)fifteenth Wrote: So your take is that they're knocking on the door of "knocking on the door".
Gotcha down
LOL