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(10-21-2021, 02:49 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: I fear this may be the phenomenon we are witnessing. Hope we turn out to be wrong!
First thought (related to the captured reply): (Noticed Clutch Sort of sniped my Idea while I typed!)
Hasn't Cynthia been (near) perfect? She has been the stabilizing professional this franchise needed and continues to be? Shouldn't we be extremely happy if the exact kind of results happen with Nico?
Second thought (not related to above):
I heard Woj live on the ESPN show NBA Today this afternoon (Sorry I can't provide any evidence). With today's Hawk v. Mavs game today he talked a little about the Luka and Trae Trade back from the draft. To me what he said really made me question the old regime even more.
Woj said that the trade for the third pick in the draft was agreed upon between Donnie and the Hawks an hour before the start of the draft. The deal was Pick #3 for Pick #5 + a 1st Round Pick next year. Of course that did happened. The part that shocked me was that Atlanta asked who they would pick for Dallas with the Third pick, and the answer Donnie gave was "Luka or Bagley, whoever falls past the Kings". Historically it seemed the Kings may have been somewhat torn between Bagley and Luka. So there seemed to be a fair chance we could of traded the 2018 5th pick and the 2019 10th pick for MARVIN BAGLEY.
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(10-21-2021, 06:03 PM)HIMAV Wrote: First thought (related to the captured reply): (Noticed Clutch Sort of sniped my Idea while I typed!)
Hasn't Cynthia been (near) perfect? She has been the stabilizing professional this franchise needed and continues to be? Shouldn't we be extremely happy if the exact kind of results happen with Nico?
Second thought (not related to above):
I heard Woj live on the ESPN show NBA Today this afternoon (Sorry I can't provide any evidence). With today's Hawk v. Mavs game today he talked a little about the Luka and Trae Trade back from the draft. To me what he said really made me question the old regime even more.
Woj said that the trade for the third pick in the draft was agreed upon between Donnie and the Hawks an hour before the start of the draft. The deal was Pick #3 for Pick #5 + a 1st Round Pick next year. Of course that did happened. The part that shocked me was that Atlanta asked who they would pick for Dallas with the Third pick, and the answer Donnie gave was "Luka or Bagley, whoever falls past the Kings". Historically it seemed the Kings may have been somewhat torn between Bagley and Luka. So there seemed to be a fair chance we could of traded the 2018 5th pick and the 2019 10th pick for MARVIN BAGLEY.
Wouldn´t surprise me at all, if it was true. Like I said before if Donnie really KNEW how special Luka was going to be, he´d never have allowed us to fall that far in the draft odds.
That being said Bagley needs to play some basketball. People write him off already. He has played only 118 games (52 starts) in three years. You could argue that he´s made of glass, but to write him off is stupid.
Also have people noticed that Mo Bamba had some decent pre-season games recently, which also translated into the first game with 18/4/4/4 and 3/4 from three in 27 minutes. He was also +1 in a 26 point loss.
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Can we get Cynthia Marshall role in the organization?
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(10-21-2021, 04:03 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Et to Brute?
You agree with Eeyore that two execs who were highly successful before they came to the Mavs are just being "given titles" and "paraded around"?
Brute? Really? Fifteenth, be your normally reasonable self, puh-leez.
The phenomenon I feared we were witnessing was some fans (probably none on this board) assuming that the Mavs front office and roster construction problems have been solved, although no one with experience in the deficient areas was hired as far as we know.
I did not particularly intend to be pessimistic or optimistic, just to observe what I thought was worth remarking on wrt the situation. Which essentially was the above. (However, if you were to ask me, it seems pretty clear from my point of view that the problems have not been solved at this point, and that it's not even a close question. But that certainly doesn't mean they won't be.)
Nico cannot be faulted for not having any experience at being a GM. From what I know of his character, he will devote every effort to learning on the job, and hopefully will grow into one of the league's outstanding executives if he is given a real chance. But it's not going to happen overnight, and I have pretty much resigned myself to its taking some time. There also appears to be some evidence that Cuban does not intend to let go of the ropes, but there is room for interpretation on that, and as Nico grows into the job, maybe Cubes will feel comfortable giving him some more space.
Do think it was time for a change, and am hopeful that, over time, we will observe a sea change in the organization. Meanwhile, Nico is apparently progressing in the effort to re-organize the operation.
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@"mavsluvr", we missed each other on that one, pal. My response was to you posting in agreement with a guy who lumped Nico and Cynt together in being "given a title" and talked about Cynt being 'paraded around".
I was surprised you agreed with that guy.
But maybe you just meant to springboard off his first sentence regarding Nico's lack of NBA GM experience and you didn't pay attention to the rest of what he said.
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(10-21-2021, 10:21 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status...6150671363
I'm glad you showed us this response, because when I saw the "I thought we got great looks" quote I nearly spit my coffee all over my computer.
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(10-22-2021, 07:03 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'm glad you showed us this response, because when I saw the "I thought we got great looks" quote I nearly spit my coffee all over my computer. I thought this was true in the first half. Second half they closed out a lot better. Or am I not understanding that "expected quality shot" which is given as if everyone should just know what it is.
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(10-22-2021, 07:33 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I thought this was true in the first half. Second half they closed out a lot better. Or am I not understanding that "expected quality shot" which is given as if everyone should just know what it is.
Unless I'm misreading, I think MacMahon's stat indicates that the Mavs (offense) got way, way fewer open catch-and-shoot opportunities than we are accustomed to seeing them get.
That was my #1 takeaway from this game. The offense was abysmal in both design and execution, imo. I hope it was just opening night issues.
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(10-22-2021, 07:45 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: The offense was abysmal in both design and execution, imo.
Very much disagree with this. Especially in the first half the Mavs got some really good looks and missed them. Also, the Hawks played better defense than the Mavs saw in the LAC series last year IMO. And finally, the refs purposely swallowed their whistles last night to set a new tone for the season and that also made a big difference.
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(10-22-2021, 08:07 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Very much disagree with this. Especially in the first half the Mavs got some really good looks and missed them.
There were 3-4 corner threes missed in the first half, but not many, and none (that I can remember) which came as a result of design. If you LIKED that offense, I don't know that there's much point in conversation, as we're just not coming at this with the same goals in mind.
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There were some good things on offensive side, but not adapting to the gameplan and how the game evolved. Basically, Rick knows these players much better, and how to use them. But Kidd will hopefully learn and do well. Not a good start.
With what Hawks were doing double teaming in the paint, this should have been changed to 5 out strategy, Maxi and KP as bigs outside, and Hawks would struggle to keep Luka away from scoring against single coverage.
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(10-22-2021, 08:15 AM)burekemde Wrote: With what Hawks were doing double teaming in the paint, this should have been changed to 5 out strategy, Maxi and KP as bigs outside, and Hawks would struggle to keep Luka away from scoring against single coverage.
Absolutely.
They came in with that double screen action (can't remember what they called it last year, but that doesn't matter because it's probably called something different now with the new staff) that was working at the beginning of the game (hence the early lead) and then the Hawks adjusted, first to force the ball in DFS's hands (which actually wasn't terrible at first) and then again to completely own it.
Kidd had no answer. The rest of the half was "let's throw the ball to KP in the high post and see what happens." Well, we should all know how that story ends by now.
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(10-21-2021, 10:20 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status...0310267905
This right here was the difference.
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