DRAFT: #18 [Green] & #31 [Terry] & trade for #36 [Tyler Bey]

[ClutchDirk]

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[Scott41theMavs]

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Good! That pushes the good players down.

[Kammrath]

I'm really coming around to the possibility of Maledon at #18 ....

https://twitter.com/NBADraft/status/1328880605019467781

[SkenfromLMF]

Posted this in the other thread.  Let's say we are on the clock and New York calls.  Any interest in giving up 18 to reclaim '21 or '23?

I'd do it in a heartbeat. If we get back the '23 1st, we can trade 4FRP (20, 23, 25, 27) and 3 swaps (22, 24, 26). Since the '21 is unprotected, it's unlikely they would go for that.

I am upping the deal... #38 and Both '21 and '23 for 18 and 31.

[Kammrath]

An interesting out of the box big board.....though I scoff at Tyler Bey being left off completely....

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[fifteenth]

An interesting out of the box big board.....though I scoff at Tyler Bey being left off completely....

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So, Nesmith

[Kammrath]

Nesmith

He definitely has the Stackhouse connection which you know for Donnie is probably huge.

[Omega_Supreme]

Other than Luka and KP, an argument can be made that DFS was our 3rd best player in the playoffs. He practically shutdown Paul George in the Clippers series and had some really good games.

Put up 10/6/3 offensively, too. Covington put up 11/5/1 in the same play-offs.

He´s also developing a reptuation and making $4 f´n million. His trade value is at least a lottery protected 1st imho. It´s definitely higher than trading up eight spots in the middle of the first round of a flat draft.

I am the same person as this is my other account but glad that you agree. You can find championship players everywhere. I will not send away guys like Dorian / Curry / Brunson. At some point you have to keep developing your guys rather than hitting the reset button. Those guys fit our culture and have the trust of Luka. 

The only guy I would move is Maxi, Delon, Boban, Jackson. I would move Tim Hardaway Jr but it would have to be for a guy that matches his years and salary. 

I would support adding Buddie Hield and I maintain that Aaron Gordon would be a good person to add to our team. Buddy Hield has superstar ability rotting away in Sac Town.

[FunkBoreland]

Not even legit if T'Bey not in the board.
Surprise to see Woodard ahead of Vassell 

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Theo Maledon has already become my favorite playmaker.

• Has Tony Parkers floaters and layups
  
• Chris Paul's deceptive passes 
  
• Gravitates defenders when he gets to the rim (opening up outside shooting).
  
• Candidate for Euro league Rising star (an accolade won by Doncic, Bogdonavic).
  
• His handles are decent, but getting coach by Shamgod would put him up to NBA level. 
  
• Defense is questionable, but he really locks down in the final minutes, a trait we fail to do in our losses within 5 points. 
  

[Kammrath]

Theo Maledon has already become my favorite playmaker.

He shot 46%/39%/85% in 2018-19.....then this past year shot 42%/33%/77% against better competition (jumping from Eurocup to Euroleague) but also had an injury to his shooting shoulder. 

If his 18/19 shooting numbers are his true self then I would take him all day at #18....but wonder if the regressed numbers are more accurate? 

After 18/19 I think many projected him as a top 5 pick, but this last year was really disappointing and didn't show the leap many thought would happen.

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https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1328895413903126529

If you’re looking for the most likely trade partner for Dallas on draft night, it’s probably Oklahoma City. The Thunder has two assets that are the Mavericks' radar, Gallinari and swingman Danny Green, and are motivated sellers.

Technically Gallinari is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent when the free agency window opens on Friday, but his current team, Oklahoma City, holds the best possibility of facilitating a deal for a projected over-the-cap team like Dallas through a sign-and-trade.

The No. 18 draft spot also reportedly is of interest to Oklahoma City — which owns the Nos. 25 and 28 picks — if 7-foot, 200-pound, 18-year-old Serbian Aleksej is still available at No. 18.

Dallas also reportedly has interest in Aleksej, although the logical choice would be to pick among whichever of the deep crop of wings falls to No. 18. But if the Mavericks believe they will get Gallinari or Green, their need for a wing lessens.

A source said the No. 18 pick definitely would not be in play in a deal for Green, but perhaps Dallas' No. 31 pick would be. That’s the pick Dallas offered the Lakers when it tried to trade for Green last February. Adding to the intrigue of Dallas-OKC factors is the Thunder’s two late-round picks, which opens the potential of Dallas dealing No. 18 but staying in the first round at Nos. 25 or 28.

On draft night, there’s usually myriad possibilities. Often, teams will have just-in-case deals in place with franchises drafting ahead of them, in the event a coveted player is still available.

[Kammrath]

So based on Brad's report above I would be very willing if my main targets are gone at 18 to do this deal:

#18 <------> #25 + #28

You could draft TBey at one spot and Maledon/Bolmaro at the other.

THEN you could use #31 in another deal (or use #28 in another deal instead).

[DanSchwartzgan]

So based on Brad's report above I would be very willing if my main targets are gone at 18 to do this deal:

#18 <------> #25 + #28

You could draft TBey at one spot and Maledon/Bolmaro at the other.

THEN you could use #31 in another deal (or use #28 in another deal instead).

Man you guys are prolific.  I'm not going to even try to catch up tonight.  Just read the most recent page of each thread.

I like the idea of 31 being part of another deal because it keeps you from using part of the MLE to sign the pick to longer than is standard for a 2nd rounder.  I'll trust you that the two guys in the mid/late 20's are just as good as one guy at 18.  It feels to me there are 15-16 guys everyone likes and at 18 it is a little iffy you get one of those.  Not sure if 31 would be used for a vet.  You could also package it with one of the OKC picks to move back up a little bit and end up with 23 and 25?  I also like dealing for a 2021 pick while keeping a late first this year too.

[Kammrath]

It feels to me there are 15-16 guys everyone likes and at 18 it is a little iffy you get one of those.

I personally think there is a bit of a consensus drop right around 16 and then you get like 30 guys that are all clumped pretty closely.

I think there is a chance someone you really like slides to 18, but if you don't get that then I think you are better off trading back and getting another asset.

[cow]

Use 31 to trade up if that's the case. Sweeten with Brunson as necessary.

[cjeter24]

Theo Maledon has already become my favorite playmaker.

He shot 46%/39%/85% in 2018-19.....then this past year shot 42%/33%/77% against better competition (jumping from Eurocup to Euroleague) but also had an injury to his shooting shoulder. 

If his 18/19 shooting numbers are his true self then I would take him all day at #18....but wonder if the regressed numbers are more accurate? 

After 18/19 I think many projected him as a top 5 pick, but this last year was really disappointing and didn't show the leap many thought would happen.

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https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1328895413903126529

If you’re looking for the most likely trade partner for Dallas on draft night, it’s probably Oklahoma City. The Thunder has two assets that are the Mavericks' radar, Gallinari and swingman Danny Green, and are motivated sellers.

Technically Gallinari is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent when the free agency window opens on Friday, but his current team, Oklahoma City, holds the best possibility of facilitating a deal for a projected over-the-cap team like Dallas through a sign-and-trade.

The No. 18 draft spot also reportedly is of interest to Oklahoma City — which owns the Nos. 25 and 28 picks — if 7-foot, 200-pound, 18-year-old Serbian Aleksej is still available at No. 18.

Dallas also reportedly has interest in Aleksej, although the logical choice would be to pick among whichever of the deep crop of wings falls to No. 18. But if the Mavericks believe they will get Gallinari or Green, their need for a wing lessens.

A source said the No. 18 pick definitely would not be in play in a deal for Green, but perhaps Dallas' No. 31 pick would be. That’s the pick Dallas offered the Lakers when it tried to trade for Green last February. Adding to the intrigue of Dallas-OKC factors is the Thunder’s two late-round picks, which opens the potential of Dallas dealing No. 18 but staying in the first round at Nos. 25 or 28.

On draft night, there’s usually myriad possibilities. Often, teams will have just-in-case deals in place with franchises drafting ahead of them, in the event a coveted player is still available.

Interesting that Gallo is the name mentioned and not Oubre. That opens up the possibility of moving back as 18 by itself for Gallo is too much. Intriguing.

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It feels to me there are 15-16 guys everyone likes and at 18 it is a little iffy you get one of those.

I personally think there is a bit of a consensus drop right around 16 and then you get like 30 guys that are all clumped pretty closely.

I think there is a chance someone you really like slides to 18, but if you don't get that then I think you are better off trading back and getting another asset.

Curious to see the Mavs draft board. If it is similar with a top 16 and one of those guys aren't there at 18... I'm punting on the draft and getting what I can out of it. I want the best value with the pick and at some point trading it becomes the far superior option instead of reaching.

[Omega_Supreme]

I just did this trade and it went through. The Mavericks also create Trade Exception to add Galinari

Boston Receives
Steven Adams
Maxi Kleber
Kelly Oubre
Pick 31

Dallas Receives
Gordon Hayward
Pick 14
Pick 26

OKC Receives
Tim Hardaway Jr. (Buyout)
Justin Jackson
Delon Wright
Romeo Langford
Marcus Smart
Pick 18

[SleepingHero]

I just did this trade and it went through. The Mavericks also create Trade Exception to add Galinari

Boston Receives
Steven Adams
Maxi Kleber
Kelly Oubre
Pick 31

So the Mavs trade Maxi+THJ+Wright+Jackson18+31 for Gordon Hayward+14+26? 

So basically 2 key rotation pieces, 2 non-impact pieces to move up in the draft+Hayward. It's not terrible. But I think Hayward alone isn't worth THJ+Maxi. And in this trade the Mavs essentially trade away all of their tradeable contracts. Only DFS+Curry+Brunson+Powell remain. 

Maybe a revised one could be:

Boston Receives
Steven Adams
Maxi Kleber
Pick 31

Dallas Receives
Gordon Hayward
Ricky Rubio
Danny Green
Pick 26


OKC Receives
Tim Hardaway Jr. (Buyout)
Justin Jackson
Delon Wright
Dwight Powell
Pick 18

Pick 14

OKC gets 2 picks plus gets off of Rubio+Adams money and breaks it into 3 smaller contracts. Saves OKC about 17 mil this season and gives them value contracts to match for trades, because most of the team is now on rookie deals. Plus OKC can add 2 more first rounders to their treasure trove. 

Boston gets the big man they want, plus a back up big. They stay in the draft and only move down 5 spots. Adams is expiring so they aren't tied up. Kleber is on a value contract and makes Thies expendable. 

Mavs get their ball handler, wing, and shooter plus stay in the draft with a first round pick. If Hayward opts in without an extension, Mavs could be looking at close to 32 mil in cap space with the Giannis summer looming. If Hayward extends lets say at 20 mil a year, the Mavs would have about 12 mil in space but a Rubio trade could put them right back at 30 mil.

[Kammrath]

• • According to Jonathan Wasserman of Bleacher Report (Twitter link), there is buzz that the[b] Sixers[/b] may have promised to draft 6’5″ Arkansas guard [b]Isaiah Joe[/b] with either the No. 21 or No. 34 pick tomorrow.
    

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[khaled1987]

12 hours , till the Mavs get a future All NBA player who will be their 2nd best player during the Luka dynasty.
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#thefutureisnow

[ClutchDirk]

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