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2020-2021 MAVS NEWS: Archived
(06-29-2021, 11:17 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Agreed. People are acting as if the Mavs organization is a single entity that should be forever condemned for the sexual harassment scandal 2 years ago. 

They say because of that history Kidd should automatically be disqualified from the Mavs HC position. I remember locked on Mavs podcast saying something to the like of "Kidd might have grown or changed, but the Mavs shouldn't have been the first team to give him a 2nd chance because the Mavs aren't qualified to make that choice", a statement strikingly similar to Cato's above. 

Uhhh, I think it is just deeper than that.
Let me say first, there are 2 parts of my response:
A-Why I understand those criticism toward Kidd hiring              B-What I really think of the situation.

- Mavs didn't deal with just sexual harassments, it was the CEO of the organization iirc, he made it toxic and it seemed really difficult to believe Cuban had no idea what is happening, if anything it was bad look as owner.
It was also a domestic abuse case, Cuban knew about it TWICE and he kept the guy, iirc after the 2nd time he forced him in anger management program and prevented him from being with another female alone during the job which begs the question why this wasn't made in 1st time. Only after it was reported to the public he was fired. 
This was reported in 2018, but the cases was long there since 2011 at least. 

The silver lining? Even in the original article, it was said the sporting department wasn't only innocent, but always treated the ladies with class act.

The next year, in 2019, we found out that KP is involved in rape accusation by a Nigerian college girl living in his building, and the Mavs knew about the situation prior to the trade. 

In 2020, we found out that Tony Ronzone, director of player personnel, is accused of sexual harassments that was related to a working trip.
Mavs say they have done their due diligence and low key defended him. Then months later we now know they fired him after the public shit storm was over. Basically confirming the incident. 

And in 2021, we decide to hire a coach with domestic violence in his CV, making headline again. 

This seems like a pattern for the media, and in this age and era  I think it is more than understandable that media will be condemning the organization. Too many fire and smokes for them to give the owner the benefit of the doubt. The owner who hired all this people and acted like he didn't knew. He is still here btw. 

-Now, what do I think about it?
The scandel reported in 2018 is just ugly, but after that nothing is there to see. KP case seems like an extortion ( we will never know) 
Ronzone was fired, and the case was him inviting a lady after working hours to his room and she willingly went there , because she thought they will talk basketball. Anyway I am glad that he isn't here considering that at best he was a cheater. 
Kidd incident was ages ago, seems like a different man.
But this could be inviting trouble, as there is always some ladies who might take advantage of situation and make false claim (or Kidd, or someone else, decide it is good time to do something shitty) and we are in media again, bringing all this history back. 
That said, I am more worried about Kidd history as coach, than his history as husband.

TLDR: 
I don't agree with Cato, but I fully understand what he, and others, coming from
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2020-2021 MAVS NEWS: Archived - by Kammrath - 11-29-2020, 01:59 PM
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