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I'm out on the 2023-24 season ....
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(01-22-2024, 11:10 PM)F Gump Wrote: The more I see this team play, the more pointless this season becomes. To be frank, they are mediocre. A good game here and there, then lots of bad ones.

They are too small, too inefficient, too inconsistent. They don't defend. The coaching is pedestrian.

Although Lively was a good pick, the upper management has been quite inept in roster building. Each summer is an exercise in spending their biggest chunk of possible spending on a player that sucks. In 2021 it was Bullock, who had a fairly good latter half of 1st season here (and  really good playoff run), but otherwise was a spare until they paid SA a FRP to take him. In 2022 it was McGee, who they waived and will be paying for 5 years to go away. In 2023 it was G Williams. Instead of bringing help to the roster, they repeatedly bring baggage that gets in the way.

The cheapies are a mixed bag. Exum and DJJ have been helpful, but they were also in the mix with Powell (same old spareness, just at a cheaper price now), Morris, Curry. And is anyone excited that Kleber is going to be here for 2 more seasons after this one? The general observation is that they just don't know how to identify a good player from a meh one, and have to hope to luck into talent.

Luka trying to win with his hero ball (for the most part) raises the ceiling to win any game, but also is quite unreliable. He's still likely to get plenty of numbers, but he hasn't shown to be the foundation of an elite team to me. If there's a formula to build around him, this FO doesn't seem to know it.

I would want them to tank, and hope for another Lively, except the 2024 draft is thought to be incredibly sucky.

So the alternative is what? The vast majority of the players around Luka-Kyrie-Lively don't seem all that useful. Is there any reason they shouldn't be a mass seller rather than a buyer? Or do they even have anything to sell? If they had the chance, I think I would would get rid of most of the roster and start over.

I don't see the point in watching this crap, nor a route to altering it. 

If you think I'm wrong, let me know what the answer is.

I think you are doing a wild disservice to this recent offseason.  Comparing it to previous offseasons because of GWill is kind of ridiculous.  In the prior offseason the McGee signing was bad, but nothing compared to letting Brunson walk and we also traded a first for Wood.  Complete bust of an offseason.  This last offseason, we had a late lottery pick, the MLE and a first that we didn't use.  For those limited assets you are expecting maybe two rotational players (with luck one might turn into more in a couple years).  Instead we got three starters.  That is an insane win.  Gwill has been a bust so far, but it is totally outweighed by the wins, and if you compare to previous offseasons, its an even bigger win.

I don't know why you expected to contend this season after being a lottery team.  Mediocre is what you should have expected, and I think they are better than that.  Its hard to tell due to all of the injuries.  I think they are missing Exum more than is realized.

This team is younger and are about to have the most assets available to them since the KP trade.  With proper expectations set that it will take some time to recover from some of the prior offseason disasters, seems like there is plenty reason to stay invested into the team.
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I'm out on the 2023-24 season .... - by F Gump - 01-22-2024, 11:10 PM
RE: I'm out on the 2023-24 season .... - by mvossman - 01-23-2024, 12:27 PM
RE: I'm out on the 2023-24 season .... - by loki - 01-23-2024, 12:35 PM
Jason Terry - by Jason Terry - 01-25-2024, 09:48 AM
RE: I'm out on the 2023-24 season .... - by MFFL - 01-25-2024, 06:20 PM
RE: I'm out on the 2023-24 season .... - by Jym - 01-25-2024, 09:28 AM
Jason Terry - by Jason Terry - 01-25-2024, 09:53 AM
RE: Jason Terry - by omahen - 01-25-2024, 10:57 AM
RE: I'm out on the 2023-24 season .... - by soog - 03-06-2024, 03:11 PM
RE: I'm out on the 2023-24 season .... - by juanc - 03-28-2024, 02:04 AM

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