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Game 8: Toronto Raptors (4-4) vs. Dallas Mavericks (6-2) | 127-116 loss
(11-10-2023, 12:20 PM)omahen Wrote: First of all, Holmes contract is not a match for any of the players listed. Secondly, none of the teams where those guys play is urged to trade them for any reason, unless some assets are involved. Grant might be paid a lot, but he is also a very good player. Portland doesn't need to sell him for a bunch of bad salaries. Why would they do that? It will take assets. Probably not a lot, as his contract is big, but still. Hayward is expiring and way better player than Holmes. Knicks are not trading Randle for Holmes... The only way he is traded if he is in a deal for a star they look for, imho. Vucevic will be traded only, if Chicago decides to tear it up. Even then, they will not take far worse player without significant assets going their way.

I understand Holmes alone could not be used in a 1 for 1 swap. I didn't say that and I'd assume you'd follow my logic. I said his salary could be used in matching purposes, meaning he can be apart of a package deal to acquire these guys.

Of course it'd take additional assets. I'm not arguing that Holmes as an asset is good enough for any of these guys by himself. That's folly. I am arguing though that Holmes+additional assets is going to bring  a greater return than if the Mavs just kept the TPE and  did a TPE+additional assets trade. Mostly because you cannot combine the TPE with anything to bring back a greater salary AND the Mavs got Omax as well. 

Whether or not any of these teams would sell on their guys remains to be seen. There were rumors that CHA wanted to buyout Hayward over the summer. Knicks and Randle are not having a good time right now. Every passing day CHI comes closer to blowing it up and their own fans don't believe they could get anything of major value for Vucevic.
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JamesConway912 - by JamesConway912 - 11-08-2023, 07:42 PM
RE: Game 8: Toronto Raptors (4-4) vs. Dallas Mavericks (6-2) | 127-116 loss - by SleepingHero - 11-10-2023, 12:29 PM

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