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Are you satisfied with the offseason (so far)
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(07-22-2023, 11:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: C:   Holmes - Powell -          Lively -                    McGee
PF:  Doncic - Kleber -           Prosper
SF:  Williams - Hardaway
SG:  Green - Curry               Hardy
PG:  Irving -                        Exum

This is more how I see it.  Note that I've got the three kids (and unproven Exum) outside the nine man playoff rotation.  They will all get time during the regular season, but will have to prove something with that time to be serious parts of a playoff rotation.  I think it is an open question as to whether Hardy will pass Curry in terms of a playoff rotation by the time we get there (which answers the question of why is Curry here).  We are anxious for Hardy to be the star we hope he will be.  The team recognizes he's a baby and needs a real NBA player (but not necessarily a star) playing in front of him).

Maybe not day one, but I suspect Holmes will start more games than Powell when all is said and done.  Having both (and I've already said I think Maxi closes games) allows them to bring Lively along slowly (maybe at a similar pace to Hardy last year).  I'm a follower of the career of Holmes and have tried to fantasy trade for him for years.  I think he will prove to be just fine.  In fact, I'm not sure center is the place I would invest significant assets into (especially if THJ is outgoing).

To the question asked by the OP, I think there is a difference between a 'grade' and 'satisfaction'.  I grade the offseason as an A+.  Everything they did was so much better than I expected.  I love getting Lively and OMax.  Williams fits like a glove IMHO.  I do think Holmes is going to be much better than most perceive and that Powell will excel (like he always has) in a more limited role.  As mentioned, the terms of the Kyrie deal were fantastic.  I love that we got rid of Bertans and Reggie while acquiring real players and second round picks (I think the 2028 second is an underrated, yet important event).  All of that isn't free, but the 2030 pick swap (and whatever the hell we did moving around second rounders) seems a small price for what we got.  All of that is just BRILLIANT to me and we got significantly younger.   I have no issue with staying under the tax this year....A+

But, am I 'satisfied'?  No.  I'm never satisfied and it isn't helped by Stein's insistence there is more coming.  So, I'm not going to lock this answer in until I see what happens (and even if something happens, I will scheme toward the next move proving I'm still not satisfied).  The O/U at 45.5 wins would have been 4th in the West last season.  I see us as a 4-7 team if things go well (which fits the O/U).  I don't think it requires much 'hope'.  We have two Top 20 players.  The role playing starters are going to be just fine and the next 4 bench guys and the 3 super young guys behind them give us a good blend of experienced hands (Powell, Maxi, THJ, Curry) with exciting youngsters (Lively, OMax and Hardy).  I think we are better than a play-in team right now, but 'hope' there is one more move up our sleeves just like everyone else.

Greatness.

Agree with all of this, except the Holmes playing more than Powell stuff. I agree with your overall points with that, I just have slightly more faith in Powell, relative to Holmes, while you seem to lean the opposite way. I agree with your overall assessment of both and the center situation with them combined. Ultimately, if we're right, it won't really matter which one starts or even which one plays more. They are very similar players in most ways, and having two of them makes it far more likely they can get to the Kleber minutes comfortably. Most of all, between the THREE of them, they aren't in a situation where they must play Lively when they don't want to, which is obviously ideal for both the team and him, short term. No need to throw assets at center just to get another body, as you say. 

I also think they're probably writing Omax into their rotation projections, at least in pencil, hoping he can play significant minutes this year. He's old for a rookie, seems pretty polished for the role he'll have for pretty much the duration of his rookie contract, and he's just an animal they don't have anywhere else on the roster. Could be dead wrong about this, but I see guys at that size in that role being the spot they're thinnest, which plays into my gut feelings about this. I just don't think they have another dude behind Williams who can do what's needed if Omax is out of the rotation. 

Totally agree with your point about Curry and Hardy. Personally, I think THJ (if he's here) is going to play a crap ton of minutes, but Curry sure does look like the third ball-handler right now.

The best part is that if it works out this way, there are attractive options with potential lying in wait for any eventuality: injuries, trades, DUI's...whatever.
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