Are you satisfied with the offseason (so far)

[Dundalis]

People seem to be under the misconception that we turned one pick into two. That’s not what happened.

We took on two years of a bad contract for a guy that was third string in order to buy a pick in the 20s. I think we all like Omax so far but that wasn’t trading 10 for 12 and 24.

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No one said anything about a third star. You don’t have to make things up to win the argument. Your only rationale for thinking you are correct is that you personally like Lively. I personally do not love him and ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY don’t think he’s on the same timeline as your two best players. Read that several times if you need it to marinate.

You do not have any kind of logical high ground like you are pretending you do.

I expected to go into next season pretty confident we’ll make the playoffs with one of the 3 best players in the world. Right now, I’m not.

You completely left out a big part of the draft moves. Taking on two years of a bad contract to buy a pick in the 20's is only half the story. We took pick 10 and Bertans, and turned it into 12, 24 and a contract LESS worse than Bertans who will also likely be more useable.

Also whether you like it or not there's a pretty good chance the Mavs took Lively at 10 anyway, so the move down to 12 might have been functionally irrelevant for the Mavs getting what they wanted, yet the only way to swap a bad contract for a less worse one and get an extra first round pick.

I think Lively is more likely to be a role player than a star, but I also think he has a defensive skillset at the 5 that is actually relatively rare. All defensive bigs are NOT made equally. Bigs that can defend the paint at a high level and also do a good job switching out are actually pretty rare, and if you can do that while developing a decent rim run game offensively you will be a good role player even on a title winning team. Literally all the tools are there for him to develop into one of those bigs. The big gamble is on his offense and whether he can ever develop a shot to space the floor. Then he isn't a matchup dependent big in the playoffs like most dinosaur bigs are he's an all situation big. There's a lot of risk there, but it's not like there's any clear slam dunks at 10. If Walker or Hendricks are there you take them and run, but they weren't.