(09-12-2020, 08:17 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: KP is great and he doesn't even have to play super-efficiently to help the offense as a whole be significantly better. A guy like that who can play the 5 effectively and shoot 3s four steps behind the 3-point line is incredible. He creates so much space. Even if he is having an off shooting night it's hard to leave him open from 3. KP can also improve his game. His shot selection is not always great. There is room for him to take better shots and be more efficient.

KP and Luka are the perfect pairing in my view and the only concern is injury which is significant. I still think it's too early to say that KP is always going to be injured or suffer career-altering surgeries on his knees. I love his game and love it for the modern NBA.

If you are trying to guard KP and put a big on him you are going to draw him out of the paint (Don Nelson's long sought after dream). KP can also run by bigs pretty easily. If you have to go small then you lose rebounding and shot blocking on the other end in most cases. KP doesn't do great against smaller players that he should be bullying or shooting over but he will figure it out.

(08-29-2020, 02:53 AM)omahen Wrote:

(08-29-2020, 02:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: So yeah I´d do trades like Lavine/WCJ, Capela/Hunter/Reddish, Vucevic/Bamba/Aminu in a heartbeat, because it becomes much easier and predictable from there.

So you basically want to do what Philly did by signing Horford. And look how great it was for them.

Mavs knew perfectly well what KP is and they will live with that. We can only hope that risk pays off and KP stays healthy.

(09-20-2020, 10:24 AM)Dundalis Wrote:

(08-29-2020, 02:53 AM)omahen Wrote:

(08-29-2020, 02:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: So yeah I´d do trades like Lavine/WCJ, Capela/Hunter/Reddish, Vucevic/Bamba/Aminu in a heartbeat, because it becomes much easier and predictable from there.

So you basically want to do what Philly did by signing Horford. And look how great it was for them.

Mavs knew perfectly well what KP is and they will live with that. We can only hope that risk pays off and KP stays healthy.

The thing is, it wasn't that much of a risk. The most valuable assets in the deal were the two firsts, and even back then it was pretty clear Luka was going to almost single handedly make those draft picks not so valuable. I know some people still had faith in DSJ, but I'd already had a pretty good idea of what his ceiling was going to be by the time of the trade. There is no way you get a stable superstar for what little they gave up. It was pure luck to be able to have that situation arise. I said at the time, even if KP doesn't work out, the risk would be worth it, because the chances of Dallas getting even one superstar much less two before the 2018 draft given the lack of assets we had and the unlucky draft position were so minimal it's not funny. This franchise was looking at a decade of literal bottom feeding. So the risk was always worth it no matter the outcome, because apart from the draft picks, the other assets in the trade weren't likely going to turn into a better player coming back in a trade.

My belief however is that it should still be looked at as an asset business. The idea that KP is untradeable is stupid, because it's not rational. He absolutely should be tradeable. The reason Luka isn't tradeable, is because there probably isn't a more valuable player in the entire NBA (or the margins are so thin as to not be worth it). That's not the case with KP. As has already been mentioned, we constantly make silly decisions by overvaluing our own players, with the contract Powell got a prime recent example. If you can acquire a more valuable asset or collection of assets than Porzingis, then you would be negligent to not seriously look at it. And by more valuable, that could in fact mean a slightly inferior talent, but whom has proven more consistent both in production and availability while also being a good fit with the team. 

I might also trade him for a package of quality players depending on age and skill profile. i.e. As a hypothetical, I'd probably trade him in a package for say Myles Turner and Brogdan. You might not get an individual with a ceiling as high as KP, but I just like the package better. We are an asset barren team with lot's of older role players around our two stars. We can't afford to be stingy when the simple fact of the matter is, Luka is our core, KP at 25 has never had one genuinely elite season (not even his all star season), he's really still potential and what we "hope" can be the core with Luka. He's really our only truly valuable trade piece, and there's simply no reason to be "stuck" with the hope he fulfills his potential without the injury issues getting in the way if the opportunity arises to turn him into something better or more reliable.

(09-22-2020, 08:10 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I want to know if his knee healed without surgery.....

(09-22-2020, 08:10 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I want to know if his knee healed without surgery.....

(09-23-2020, 05:22 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Most meniscus surgeries require 12 weeks of recovery time before you can do any heavy lifting/working out. A meniscus injury can heal on it's own in 4-6 weeks, with many people healing sooner than that depending on the tear. It's been almost 6 weeks since his initial injury (Mavs said it occurred game 1).

The fact that he's in the gym is a big sign that he probably didn't require surgery, and has the go ahead to start working out again. That, or KP is a bionic cyborg that can recover in less than half the normal time needed for a meniscus surgery.

(09-23-2020, 05:22 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 08:10 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I want to know if his knee healed without surgery.....

Most meniscus surgeries require 12 weeks of recovery time before you can do any heavy lifting/working out. A meniscus injury can heal on it's own in 4-6 weeks, with many people healing sooner than that depending on the tear. It's been almost 6 weeks since his initial injury (Mavs said it occurred game 1).

The fact that he's in the gym is a big sign that he probably didn't require surgery, and has the go ahead to start working out again. That, or KP is a bionic cyborg that can recover in less than half the normal time needed for a meniscus surgery.

(09-23-2020, 09:39 PM)radioaktiv Wrote: In case you missed this last week: https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2020/09/17/a-concerning-history-or-nba-trend-former-mavs-team-doctor-weighs-in-on-kristaps-porzingis-injuries/

Personally I'm not too concerned (yet).  Anthony Davis, Steph Curry, and Chris Paul were all injury-prone for years earlier in their careers.  Porzingis could very well bounce back from this and becomes an NBA iron man, who knows.

(09-23-2020, 09:39 PM)radioaktiv Wrote: In case you missed this last week: https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2020/09/17/a-concerning-history-or-nba-trend-former-mavs-team-doctor-weighs-in-on-kristaps-porzingis-injuries/

Personally I'm not too concerned (yet). Anthony Davis, Steph Curry, and Chris Paul were all injury-prone for years earlier in their careers. Porzingis could very well bounce back from this and becomes an NBA iron man, who knows.

(09-23-2020, 10:04 PM)radioaktiv Wrote: What I'm saying is a guy could get injured for consecutive years, for varying reason - luck, weakness at some parts of his body, play style, etc.  Guy could find a way to mitigate those factors (like Curry worked on strengthening his ankles and had shoes specifically designed for him), and the frequency of the injuries could lessen.  As the article pointed out, KP's injuries were contact injuries and could happen to anyone, and there are things he can do about it (strengthening).

Naysayers could be right and he'll be injured half of the time all his career.  It's not like I expect him to suddenly become invincible like John Stockton LOL.  But given his dedication to the game I have confidence he'll do what he can, and with some luck he could turn this around.  Maybe he could be a Bradley Beal and suddenly plays 75+ games for consecutive seasons, you know?

(09-23-2020, 10:11 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Getting a stronger core and lower body is probably a good thing. Gaining weight and bulking up isn´t.

(09-23-2020, 10:04 PM)radioaktiv Wrote: Porzingis said the tear happened after Clippers center Marcus Morris Sr. accidentally fell into him while Porzingis went for an offensive rebound.

(10-09-2020, 04:39 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/MavsPR/status/1314677632278069250

(09-23-2020, 05:22 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 08:10 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I want to know if his knee healed without surgery.....

Most meniscus surgeries require 12 weeks of recovery time before you can do any heavy lifting/working out.