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RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - fifteenth - 12-17-2019

(12-17-2019, 01:08 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/sdotcurry/status/1206807268668461056

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https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1206802810123300865

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If you have this kind of buy in, and these kinds of things being said by one of your stars, then things are going well.


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - ThisIStheYear - 12-17-2019

That’s more like what I thought the Mavs were getting in Zinger. If this can become a typical Zinger game in terms of efficiency, that big contract will look pretty good. Zinger’s comments suggesting he’s basically altering his game to take the mid range out by focusing on 3s and paint are incredibly interesting. I wasn’t aware that his previous style had a mid range focus. It seems likely his struggles have more to do with that than lingering effects from the injury or rust. Transformations are hard but can pay off big if successful. This also gives some clarity on what the Mavs overall are trying to accomplish, a style with the same shot pattern as the Rockets but that gets there with relentless ball movement over one on one play. I like what they’re doing. It’s not revolutionary, but it’s enough of an evolution to count as a significant innovation. The coaching has been extraordinary so far this year.


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - Kammrath - 12-17-2019

(12-17-2019, 10:17 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: This also gives some clarity on what the Mavs overall are trying to accomplish, a style with the same shot pattern as the Rockets but that gets there with relentless ball movement over one on one play.  I like what they’re doing.


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RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - fifteenth - 12-17-2019

(12-17-2019, 10:17 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: That’s more like what I thought the Mavs were getting in Zinger. If this can become a typical Zinger game in terms of efficiency, that big contract will look pretty good. Zinger’s comments suggesting he’s basically altering his game to take the mid range out by focusing on 3s and paint are incredibly interesting. I wasn’t aware that his previous style had a mid range focus. It seems likely his struggles have more to do with that than lingering effects from the injury or rust. Transformations are hard but can pay off big if successful. This also gives some clarity on what the Mavs overall are trying to accomplish, a style with the same shot pattern as the Rockets but that gets there with relentless ball movement over one on one play. I like what they’re doing. It’s not revolutionary, but it’s enough of an evolution to count as a significant innovation. The coaching has been extraordinary so far this year.

Great post! Love it!


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - michaeltex - 12-17-2019

(12-17-2019, 08:49 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Man that was vintage Porzingis last night. I don't understand rotations at all especially last night on either side. It seems like KP sits for really long stretches. He is so effective when he's in there. Also I am willing to say he needs to take back to the basket touches out of his game. Back to the basket dribbling is dying and almost extinct anyway. Ya it was nice that Dirk could do it and there are still some guys that do it, it just isn't necessary and KP doesn't have the handles to do it. What happens every time is that these smaller defenders can disrupt his dribble. That doesn't mean he doesn't have handles. I love him getting the ball in space, even if its out on the perimeter he can take bigger guys off the dribble and do some amazing stuff. He can also try more face up stuff holding his dribble for the triple threat. Once he realizes that it's going to be a lot better. Last night he only tried a couple back to the basket touches and it didn't go well. Everything else was great. Man having Luka + KP is so huge, they are great compliments to each other. This team is not far away from contention at all. Think how far we have come so quickly.

Dirk's fadeaway was the reason for his postup success. Didn't do anything fancy with dribbling, but backed you down a bit and could spin out if you over commited to one side. Once the double teams started, he perfected his signature one-legged lean-back that was pretty much unguardable. But that is now one of those 2pt shots that nobody is supposed to take.

Personally, I'm feeling like the Mavs are in contention. Top 4 in the West. Beaten all of the teams around them at least once plus a couple of the top East teams. If they can beat BOS on Wednesday, then the noise surrounding our boys will really ramp up. Great in one sense, but possible distraction in another.

I always like the Spurs publicity. You didn't hear much about them, they just kept winning. Next thing you know, they're a top 4 seed that creates problems for opponents and is a tough out in the tournament.


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - StepBackJay - 12-17-2019

(12-17-2019, 11:11 AM)michaeltex Wrote:
(12-17-2019, 08:49 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Man that was vintage Porzingis last night. I don't understand rotations at all especially last night on either side. It seems like KP sits for really long stretches. He is so effective when he's in there. Also I am willing to say he needs to take back to the basket touches out of his game. Back to the basket dribbling is dying and almost extinct anyway. Ya it was nice that Dirk could do it and there are still some guys that do it, it just isn't necessary and KP doesn't have the handles to do it. What happens every time is that these smaller defenders can disrupt his dribble. That doesn't mean he doesn't have handles. I love him getting the ball in space, even if its out on the perimeter he can take bigger guys off the dribble and do some amazing stuff. He can also try more face up stuff holding his dribble for the triple threat. Once he realizes that it's going to be a lot better. Last night he only tried a couple back to the basket touches and it didn't go well. Everything else was great. Man having Luka + KP is so huge, they are great compliments to each other. This team is not far away from contention at all. Think how far we have come so quickly.

Dirk's fadeaway was the reason for his postup success. Didn't do anything fancy with dribbling, but backed you down a bit and could spin out if you over commited to one side. Once the double teams started, he perfected his signature one-legged lean-back that was pretty much unguardable. But that is now one of those 2pt shots that nobody is supposed to take.

Personally, I'm feeling like the Mavs are in contention. Top 4 in the West. Beaten all of the teams around them at least once plus a couple of the top East teams. If they can beat BOS on Wednesday, then the noise surrounding our boys will really ramp up. Great in one sense, but possible distraction in another.

I always like the Spurs publicity. You didn't hear much about them, they just kept winning. Next thing you know, they're a top 4 seed that creates problems for opponents and is a tough out in the tournament.

Young Dirk did a lot of dribbling, in-his-prime Dirk did dribble in the post as you mentioned. I agree it's not fancy but Dirk was able to do it without turning the ball over until late in his career when he would fumble it a lot until he had to subtract it from his game. He would still do post-ups but not with an active dribble.

KP wasn't that good in post-ups statistically in NYK and it's worse now. I am just saying he should not dribble with his back to the basket. He still has an impressive handle overall for his size. It's a real problem for bigs to meet him at the 3 point line where he will either shoot over them or take them off the dribble.


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - BolsDamols - 12-17-2019



- Same shot he hit against Giannis (from Mavs Moneyball)


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - Hypermav - 12-18-2019

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/12/18/21027309/kristaps-porzingis-dallas-mavericks-luka-doncic


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - khaled1987 - 12-18-2019

(12-18-2019, 07:48 AM)Hypermav Wrote: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/12/18/21027309/kristaps-porzingis-dallas-mavericks-luka-doncic

That is actually a very good rad, thanks for sharing


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - fifteenth - 12-18-2019

(12-18-2019, 07:48 AM)Hypermav Wrote: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/12/18/21027309/kristaps-porzingis-dallas-mavericks-luka-doncic

"The big change happened when Carlisle overhauled his rotation to play Doncic and Porzingis together more often. He had staggered their playing time before realizing Porzingis didn’t need to be a primary option. In fact, he was better when he could play off someone else. The Mavs have gone 12-3 since the move with wins against the Bucks and Lakers. Porzingis is the biggest beneficiary. His net rating went from minus-7.1 in his first 10 games to plus-16.7 in his last 15."


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - StepBackJay - 12-18-2019

Good article. I still don't buy this PNR explanation. The conventional wisdom right now is that defenders will switch leading to a KP post-up that slows down the offense. It doesn't make any sense to me. How come defenders don't switch on virtually every big, particularly the ones with no offense outside of the paint? By that logic defenders should switch on Powell screens or DAJ when he was here. They aren't capable of exploiting a smaller player 20 feet from the basket either. At any rate I digress.

I like this KP 2.0. I think this is the new KP, the old KP is dead. This version is going to get more efficient over time as he gets more comfortable and gets his shot going. His form has looked great all year, the shots just aren't going in but they are going in more now than they were earlier. I think by the end of the season his efficiency is going to go way up because that's what uncle Ricky does. He maximizes the effectiveness of all of his guys.


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - SleepingHero - 12-19-2019

Since Luka went down, Kristaps has been averaging 23.6 ppg 13 rpg 2.6 apg 2.3 bpg on 41/37.5/74

Shooting percentages aren't exactly where I want it to be, but the dude has stepped the heck up. 24 and 13 with almost 3 blocks a game are all-star numbers. For comparison, Joel Embiid is currently averaging 25.5 and 12 on 46% from the field and 31% from 3.


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - ClutchDirk - 12-20-2019

https://twitter.com/bobbykaralla/status/1207764091911254016


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - Kammrath - 12-20-2019

https://twitter.com/NBAFantasy/status/1208240409924816896

https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1208235168252727296

https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1208231145747419141


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - ClutchDirk - 12-21-2019

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RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - ClutchDirk - 12-21-2019

https://twitter.com/presidual/status/1208236720992337920

https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1208234318998523904


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - Kammrath - 12-22-2019

https://twitter.com/coopmavs/status/1208763736439308288


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - Kammrath - 12-22-2019

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1208822296485486599


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - StepBackJay - 12-22-2019

Mavericks young supporting cast fumbled the game away but we shouldn't take away the masterful KP defensive display. His defense is completely suffocating. He looks like Gobert on defense and yet has all the offensive tools of a shooting guard and more. Still think Mavs need one more big. Mavs bigs played really well for the most part. Rick again decided to go small late for a long stretch to let the Raps back in it. Maybe if we had one more big he wouldn't do that. Love me some KP.

Also I am tired of media people saying KP needs to play like a max player. He may not be shooting super efficiently on offense but his defense is just amazing. I will take this player all day every day because he plays winning basketball. I am so happy he has bought into Rick's system. He isn't going to be Knicks KP but that's not necessarily a problem. He is going to be a 20/10 guy with suffocating defense and his efficiency numbers will go up over time.


RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis - Luka_Magic - 12-27-2019

https://twitter.com/tim_cato/status/1210421333424775168?s=19

https://youtu.be/aDxEcge16N8

Love to see Rick go to bat for KP like this. Post-up debate aside it sounds like the unicorn is dealing with some foot soreness after tonight's game so I'm going to go ahead and predict he misses Saturday's tilt against Golden State. Gotta be ready to deal the Lakers their fifth consecutive loss (!!) On Sunday.