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RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - Tyler - 02-06-2020
Well, there goes the two bench guys I thought Dallas might be in on. Good for Philly.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225297141121327104
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - omahen - 02-06-2020
(02-06-2020, 12:58 AM)Tyler Wrote: Well, there goes the two bench guys I thought Dallas might be in on. Good for Philly.
They are not worth 3 second rounders to us. I would rather have us get some second rounders
Let's get in on action and take some second rounders to take Philly junk.
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - Jym - 02-06-2020
So philly needs to waive/trade 2 of these
Mike Scott fits a need.
Korkmaz is an interesting prospect
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RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - cow - 02-06-2020
I'd guess they'll ditch Bolden and Burke.
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - Mavs2019 - 02-06-2020
(02-06-2020, 01:12 AM)Jym Wrote: So philly needs to waive/trade 2 of theseI´d take Trey Burke, Jonah Bolden, Shake Milton into the TE. Offer them Boban + Broekhoff for Zhaire Smith.
Mike Scott fits a need.
Korkmaz is an interesting prospect
They re-unite the Boban + Harris show, get another shooter in Broekhoff, create two roster slots.
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - cow - 02-06-2020
Was also thinking of a way to get Zhaire. 76ers needs are another big and a point guard.
Aside, think Nene gets cut? Worth kicking the tires?
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - omahen - 02-06-2020
GSW will give minimum contracts to their 2 way guys. Then they trade Looney for 1 or 2 minimum conracts and they are saved
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1225300530425204737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1225300530425204737&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnba
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - cow - 02-06-2020
Jackson for Looney? Or TE?
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - omahen - 02-06-2020
(02-06-2020, 01:55 AM)cow Wrote: Jackson for Looney? Or TE?
He doesn't have a min contract. Too high salary
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - DanSchwartzgan - 02-06-2020
(02-05-2020, 11:01 PM)Tyler Wrote:(02-05-2020, 10:59 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: https://tradenba.com/trades/ysBuATdOi
Well done. That fits everything I've read tonight. Just include Miami also removing the restrictions on the pick they already owe OKC, and I bet that's the deal.
Here is Hollinger's write-up on how this might work. It almost has to be Johnson, Winslow and either Olynyk or Waiters. I went with Olynyk because I thought Johnson AND Waiters was too big a price to pay for getting Winslow. But, even if it is Waiters, I have to admire what Memphis is doing. This is straight out of the Cuban playbook. Take on what will be expiring contract(s) a year from now to get a guy you want. How well does Winslow fit with JJJ, Clark, Morant, Brooks and Valanciunas. The bench behind those six isn't bad either.
As we roll into the final hours before the trade deadline, the evidence would appear to show that the Miami Heat have two separate deals lined up – a two-way trade with Memphis for Andre Igoudala that is already agreed on, and a yet-to-be-completed three-way trade with Oklahoma City and Memphis that nets them both Iguodala and Danilo Gallinari. One would further assume that the Heat have the same players and assets going to Memphis either way, which is why they were already able to agree to a two-year, $30 million extension with Andre Iguodala.
An extension like this must be done before a trade, and will be only the third extend-and-trade transaction in league history (Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Garnett were the others). The only variable is whether they can then turn into a three-way deal with Oklahoma City for Gallinari. But who is in the deal? It appears we can suss that out, too.
The two-way deal between Memphis and Miami is pretty straightforward – Miami sends Justise Winslow and two unwanted contracts to the Grizzlies in return for Iguodala, Jae Crowder and Solomon Hill. It’s reasonable to assume Crowder and Hill are the other two players going to Miami since they were held out of Memphis’ game at the last minute Wednesday night. It’s also reasonable to assume they’d be headed to Oklahoma City in a potential three-way deal since nothing has leaked about where they’re headed yet (As opposed to Iguodala, who immediately learned he’s going to Miami and already agreed to an extension.).
Note that Miami could potentially include a second-round pick in 2022 (the lesser of Denver or Philadelphia’s) in a swap with Memphis – the only draft pick Miami could put into a two-way trade with Memphis. The other two players in this construction are likely some combination of the unpalatable contracts of James Johnson and Dion Waiters, and the expiring ones of Kelly Olynyk and Meyers Leonard. But wait, there’s more. In order to follow that trade up with one where Crowder and Hill go to Oklahoma City for Gallinari – a palatable deal for the Thunder if enough draft compensation comes with it, since those two can replace some of Gallinari’s minutes and the deal puts the Thunder below the tax line – the Heat need to come up with $39.8 million in contracts.
Keep in mind, that total includes the unlikely incentives in the deals for Waiters ($1.21 million) and Olynyk ($400,000). Winslow makes $13.3 million, so we need another $27.5 million among the remaining two players. Only one player gets you even halfway there – James Johnson. He has to be in the deal. Johnson plus Leonard still leaves you short, so scratch him. It has to be either Kelly Olynyk or Dion Waiters as the other Heat player. Given that Olynyk played 22 minutes on Wednesday night while Waiters and Johnson were held out of the game, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to conclude that Johnson and Waiters appear to be the ones going to Memphis.
If so, it’s quite a price to pay for acquiring Winslow. The Grizzlies would take on nearly $30 million in payroll next season (presuming Johnson picks up his $16 million player option) for two players who are unlikely to figure in their rebuild. Adding those contracts plus Winslow’s and the just-inked extension to guard Dillon Brooks (a solid deal at three years, $35 million, per ESPN) will take the Grizzlies entirely out of 2020 cap space when they started the day with a potential $55 million in room (including cap holds for Brooks and DeAnthony Melton). The other half of the Gallinari piece, as I mentioned earlier, almost certainly involves Miami rewriting protections on the 2023 first-round pick it owes the Thunder (currently top-14 protected).
Enabling the pick to convey in either 2023 or 2024 would allow Miami to insert another first-round pick in 2025, which one would think would provide ample temptation to compel the Thunder to do the trade. Those protections are likely the final piece to the puzzle, and one the two sides may haggle over until shortly before the deadline buzzer. (JH)
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - JamesConway - 02-06-2020
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225405620301574148?s=20
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - Kammrath - 02-06-2020
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225404940161617920
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - BigDirk41 - 02-06-2020
(02-06-2020, 08:19 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225404940161617920This is why the Mavs make me so mad saving cap space. It doesn't mean a damn thing when your gm knows what he's doing.
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - DanSchwartzgan - 02-06-2020
(02-06-2020, 08:11 AM)JamesConway Wrote: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225405620301574148?s=20
Genius on Miami's part and allowing the TO makes sense for Iggy. He's getting much more for 20/21 than he would have on the open market.
Tougher call for Gallinari. Normally you'd expect someone like him, at his age, to get a multi-year at greater than the MLE. Maybe 3/48 or so. But, who is out there that can spend that. Yeah, someone can S&T for him, but do you take the one year bird in hand (presumably at a premium to his current salary) with no guarantee beyond that or take the risk someone can swing a deal in the summer?
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - BigDirk41 - 02-06-2020
Could you imagine if Pat Riley had Luka. Does anyone think he would wait on "win now moves"? Pat Riley is always looking to win and doesn't waste players years with lack of talent. If Riley was our GM, we would be making moves right now.
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - DanSchwartzgan - 02-06-2020
BTW, Gallinari is apparently there for the taking. All you have to do is beat expiring Crowder, expiring Hill and whatever draft compensation is going to OKC. You can apparently even get him to sign an extension if you are willing to guarantee beyond 20/21.
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Galinari to be extended and traded to MIA? - ClutchDirk - 02-06-2020
https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/1225393894290083840
https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers/status/1225297659369578497
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Griz trade AI to Miami, AI signing extension - BigDirk41 - 02-06-2020
(02-06-2020, 08:32 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: BTW, Gallinari is apparently there for the taking. All you have to do is beat expiring Crowder, expiring Hill and whatever draft compensation is going to OKC. You can apparently even get him to sign an extension if you are willing to guarantee beyond 20/21.Sign me up
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Galinari to be extended and traded to MIA? - omahen - 02-06-2020
(02-06-2020, 08:32 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: BTW, Gallinari is apparently there for the taking. All you have to do is beat expiring Crowder, expiring Hill and whatever draft compensation is going to OKC. You can apparently even get him to sign an extension if you are willing to guarantee beyond 20/21.
Exactly. If Miami isn't giving Herro to OKC, Gallo price is very cheap and Mavs, I dare to say, should jump in. Only problem is, OKC prefers wings over PG (Wright). Perhaps Lee, Curry, Jackson, GSW2nd and a couple other seconds. Unless Miami is removing protection and adding another pick, this is similar value.
If Miami pulls this off by only giving Winslow and removed protection, Mavs should be ashamed. Miami also got rid of two very bad contracts, that would require 2 first rounders in separate deals.
RE: NBA Trade Rumors | Galinari to be extended and traded to MIA? - StepBackJay - 02-06-2020
Winslow was part of the Iguodala deal right? Pretty sure Heat would drop protections on a pick OKC already owns which they'd rather have than the GSW pick.
The thing about the Mavs is they don't want to do extensions altho I'd love to do an Iggy like extension on Gallo. You would probably get back whatever you give up if you trade him next year at this time.