(11-23-2023, 12:23 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote:  Would you take Gilgeous-Alexander, Chet Holmgren, and all of OKC's stockpile of first-round picks for Luka?

(11-23-2023, 12:39 PM)omahen Wrote: Probably. But, I am trying to speak about realistic offers here. Why would OKC do that? They can't win with remaining team, Luka and no assets left in this hypothetic scenario. Luka walks in two seasons for a better team. Makes no sense. OKC hope is that Shai can lead a team to a title.

(11-23-2023, 12:24 PM)omahen Wrote: I don't agree that is the attitude. People are talking about selling high, not dumping him. I don't think anyone is saying THJ is not a good player. But, he is redundant to what Mavs have and need.

(11-23-2023, 12:15 PM)omahen Wrote: It is true that it will be easier to move his expiring deal. But the idea discussed here is - would it make sense to cash in for THJ for a similar size (and duration) contract and assets(s). For eaxample Orlando and Isaac. Mavs would still have expiring contract to deal in the summer and another pick in the chest. I don't think they would be any worse dealing THJ even as good as he was so far. Even if they lose a couple of games because of that, so what. It’s about long term, not about having a couple of more wins this season.

(11-23-2023, 01:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think what you’re describing is YOUR attitude, which is reasonable and valuable. But, with respect, if you’re not seeing the persistent THJ hate, you’re not reading very carefully.

(11-23-2023, 03:47 PM)mvossman Wrote: He might be missing the Timmy hate because its being drowned by Powell hate (and to a lesser extent Green hate).  For a team with a 10-5 start, there is a lot of player hate on this board.

(11-23-2023, 04:37 PM)The Jom Wrote: And Kidd hate. And Cuban hate. And even a little (I’m guilty) Harper hate.

(11-23-2023, 09:20 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Yup.  Only a motorhead would get it.

Quote:I think just letting it you know come to me. We have a very deep team with a lot of talent. I think it's selfish if I go out of my way and force shots or do things to get me in my rhythm. It’s a long season, I don’t really care what people have to say. You know, we’ve had a great start this season. I just want to make sure I’m doing it the right way and find my rhythm…” 

(11-23-2023, 03:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Are we thinking Orlando would give up draft capital in a THJ for Isaac deal?  I’m not sure fans in Orlando would agree.  Isaac’s D has been incredible and he has the more flexible contract.  Yeah, he’s got an injury history and yes Orlando could use THJ’s shooting.  But, we could also use what Isaac brings to the table.  I’m not positive we’d be receiving Isaac and a pick of some kind.  I think it would be a pretty good deal straight up.

(11-23-2023, 12:24 PM)omahen Wrote: Lets put on the table this question - does good version of THJ have more value now or next season as expiring contract? Tanking teams don't need good version of THJ. I don't think they would see him as any more than expiring contract that they will try to flip or (if not successful) just release to allow him to go to a contender.

On the other hand you have teams that are looking to get better. I think it totally depends on a specific situation related to the status of their cap space. Some might prefer expiring contract as it would reduce their payroll for next season. Others might value to have an expiring deal on their roster for next season as it would give them trade flexibility. Team like Orlando could have close to max cap space next season, so getting THJ could ruin their summer plans.

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I don't agree that is the attitude. People are talking about selling high, not dumping him. I don't think anyone is saying THJ is not a good player. But, he is redundant to what Mavs have and need.