+- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com)
+-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+--- Thread: MAVS NEWS: Luka Wins Community Cares Award! | DLive's Mom Passes Away| Maxi OUT (/showthread.php?tid=2172)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
240
241
242
243
244
245
246
247
248
249
250
251
252
253
254
255
256
257
258
259
260
261
262
263
264
265
266
267
268
269
270
271
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280
281
282
283
284
285
286
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
300
301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
322
323
324
325
326
327
328
329
330
331
332
333
334
335
336
337
338
339
340
341
342
343
344
345
346
347
348
349
350
351
352
353
354
355
356
357
358
359
360
361
362
363
364
365
366
367
368
369
370
371
372
373
374
375
376
377
378
379
380
381
382
383
384
385
386
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - fifteenth - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 10:37 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I don't know why people insist on taking shots at Powell.
Do you really not? Powell is exactly the kind of player folks criticize regardless of his productivity or impact on the team. He's an undersized center who sometimes gets beat up by the bigger centers and doesn't put up great rebounding numbers. Excelling at being in right place, knowing the scheme, making the correct pass and generally impacting team output in a positive way doesn't move the needle. Even being an ultra-efficient scorer who the superstar loves to play with can't make up for being an undersized center.
Fans see what fans see.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - IamDougieFresh - 11-14-2023
So are you guys telling me Powell will get it done in the playoffs this year?
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 03:33 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: So are you guys telling me Powell will get it done in the playoffs this year?
They've already carved his name into the Bill Russell trophy.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - fifteenth - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 03:33 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: So are you guys telling me Powell will get it done in the playoffs this year?
He won't save us from losing the rebound battle against big, bruising centers. And he won't save us in games where our best players don't beat the other team's best players.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - mvossman - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 03:33 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: So are you guys telling me Powell will get it done in the playoffs this year?
This is a valid point, but I think he will be a much more useful player in the playoffs coming off the bench for 8-12 minutes a game.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - IamDougieFresh - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 03:58 PM)fifteenth Wrote: He won't save us from losing the rebound battle against big, bruising centers. And he won't save us in games where our best players don't beat the other team's best players.
This is quite literally the exact same as my "extremist Dwight hater POV" lmfaoooooooooooooo
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - fifteenth - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 04:16 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: This is quite literally the exact same as my "extremist Dwight hater POV" lmfaoooooooooooooo
That's just more evidence that we should be the next Mavs broadcast crew.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - Scott41theMavs - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 04:21 PM)fifteenth Wrote: That's just more evidence that we should be the next Mavs broadcast crew.
Hearing that idea induces me to miss my banghead smiley.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - fifteenth - 11-14-2023
(11-14-2023, 05:06 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Hearing that idea induces me to miss my banghead smiley.
LOL!
Hi Scott!!
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - SleepingHero - 11-15-2023
OMax highlights!
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - Mavs2021 - 11-15-2023
(11-14-2023, 04:05 PM)mvossman Wrote: This is a valid point, but I think he will be a much more useful player in the playoffs coming off the bench for 8-12 minutes a game.
Powell has only played more than 15 MPG in a play-off series once in his whole Mavs career. It´s not like the coaches trusted him, when it really mattered. The Mavs were just a team of overachieving regular season specialists for the last 12 years. Everybody knew their overall talent level was never sufficient to do anything in the play-offs. This team might be different due to the massive difference Luka being in shape and Kyrie being well behaved could make.
Some things though are still lacking and size/athletism are a huge part of it.
Love Seth Curry, but he doesn´t even look like a steal at $4M. He looks like an 33 year old undersized SG that doesn´t have the quickness to get his shot off against longer players. He´s shooting 25% from the field and 17% from three. He´s virtually unplayable at the moment. I´d like to see some AJ Lawson in those situations. He clearly gains nothing from playing G-League anymore. Shot 59/50/100 in his seasonal debut there. He´s a career 40% 3pt shooter in the NBA too on a limited sample size. Right now the bar is playing better defense than Seth Curry and shooting better than 25/17/83.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - Nowitzki Way - 11-15-2023
(11-15-2023, 07:46 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Love Seth Curry, but he doesn´t even look like a steal at $4M. He looks like an 33 year old undersized SG that doesn´t have the quickness to get his shot off against longer players. He´s shooting 25% from the field and 17% from three. He´s virtually unplayable at the moment. I´d like to see some AJ Lawson in those situations. He clearly gains nothing from playing G-League anymore. Shot 59/50/100 in his seasonal debut there. He´s a career 40% 3pt shooter in the NBA too on a limited sample size. Right now the bar is playing better defense than Seth Curry and shooting better than 25/17/83.
The Seth Curry signing only made sense to me if they were trading THJ and/or Hardy. I assumed they were working on some sort of trade when they signed Curry. If not, that was a wasted signing.
There is no more room in the rotation for an undersized shooter. He's never been good on D, and now his shot is not falling like it used to.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - meistermatze - 11-15-2023
I also see Seth as insurance for when or if we trade Hardaway or Hardy, which are both also kind of redundant. Don't get me wrong, I like both for us but since we also have Seth and even Exum seems to be a capable player, we should really try and trade Hardy or Hardaway at high value for some athletic wing or a good bruising Center. Whoever stays can fill out the 6th man scoring role and Exum and or Seth slide in for the Hardy-Role. Built as we are I believe in us as a great regular season team but in the playoffs, when the game slows down, total lack of interior D and the overall lack of rebounding will kill us. We can't expect to outgun opponents all year on unsustainable 3-point-percentages.
JamesConway912 - JamesConway912 - 11-15-2023
Per Townsend:
On today's first injury report, Mavericks list Kyrie Irving as questionable for tonight's game against Washington with a left foot sprain.
NBA.com’s updated rookie ladder:
1. Victor Wembanyama
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Ausar Thompson
4. Jordan Hawkins
5. Dereck Lively II
6. Brandon Miller
7. Jaime Jaquez Jr.
8. Keyonte George
9. Bilal Coulibaly
10. Marcus Sasser
per Nbacentral
RE: JamesConway912 - Chicagojk - 11-15-2023
(11-15-2023, 12:53 PM)JamesConway912 Wrote: Per Townsend:
On today's first injury report, Mavericks list Kyrie Irving as questionable for tonight's game against Washington with a left foot sprain.
NBA.com’s updated rookie ladder:
1. Victor Wembanyama
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Ausar Thompson
4. Jordan Hawkins
5. Dereck Lively II
6. Brandon Miller
7. Jaime Jaquez Jr.
8. Keyonte George
9. Bilal Coulibaly
10. Marcus Sasser
per Nbacentral
Lively will probably slide a little. He just won't have the counting stats as the year goes on. If you watch the games though, you will feel his presence more. I have to say, I am a little surprised we have not seen a 5 + block game yet.
The thing I like most about Lively (and Prosper) is both have the skill sets where they will find ways to help teams win without worrying about points. Several years ago, Michael Lewis had an article on Battier titled the No Stats all star. I sort of envision this type of title for both Lively and Omax...hopefully with a little more stats though
RE: JamesConway912 - youzigizag - 11-15-2023
(11-15-2023, 01:27 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Lively will probably slide a little. He just won't have the counting stats as the year goes on. If you watch the games though, you will feel his presence more. I have to say, I am a little surprised we have not seen a 5 + block game yet.
The thing I like most about Lively (and Prosper) is both have the skill sets where they will find ways to help teams win without worrying about points. Several years ago, Michael Lewis had an article on Battier titled the No Stats all star. I sort of envision this type of title for both Lively and Omax...hopefully with a little more stats though
Not trying to be rude...not saying you said anything Homerish about OMax...
But can anyone give an objective analysis of his few minutes in real NBA games thus far.
My eye tells me there is a lot of sloppiness. I get it...hes young and needs to learn the schemes. My eye could be wrong...I am a huge cheerleader for this kid but my eye is telling me to tap the breaks due to a lot of sloppiness. He, no doubt, has time to figure it out...but I am concerned based on my belief that a lot of other young players coming into the league have a lot more body control than he does. I am rooting for him...Mavs could use his size and motor on defense...I am concerned about my untrained eye telling me he is too wild on the court. An easier way to say what I am trying to say it...seems like there is a lot to polish up. Not saying it cant be done....just that there is a lot to polish compared to others. Im 100% team OMax though.
RE: JamesConway912 - JamesConway912 - 11-15-2023
(11-15-2023, 01:43 PM)youzigizag Wrote: Not trying to be rude...not saying you said anything Homerish about OMax...
But can anyone give an objective analysis of his few minutes in real NBA games thus far.
My eye tells me there is a lot of sloppiness. I get it...hes young and needs to learn the schemes. My eye could be wrong...I am a huge cheerleader for this kid but my eye is telling me to tap the breaks due to a lot of sloppiness. He, no doubt, has time to figure it out...but I am concerned based on my belief that a lot of other young players coming into the league have a lot more body control than he does. I am rooting for him...Mavs could use his size and motor on defense...I am concerned about my untrained eye telling me he is too wild on the court. An easier way to say what I am trying to say it...seems like there is a lot to polish up. Not saying it cant be done....just that there is a lot to polish compared to others. Im 100% team OMax though.
Preseason was brutal for Omax, he’d dribble / almost dribble the ball off his foot basically every time he touched it. Simple handoffs didn’t work, just catching the ball on the perimeter looked incredibly wonky, etc. Not sure if it was the travel (was he ever overseas before?) and/or the nerves but he looked horrendous there. But it was so bad that there had to be some type of reason (Imo nervousness).
Last night he played 9 minutes. Got to the FT line aggressively, attacked a closeout well and finished inside with his offhand,made his FTs, crashed the boards. His unit actually played well and outscored NO by quite a lot while he was in. I think that showing spoke volumes about him as a prospect as it did fit much better to his draft / college pedigree than his preseason performances.
Also I thought he played well in SL. Did try to expand his game more scoring wise and the results were good iirc.
I think they are doing a good job of bringing him along so far. Lively is starting, Green has tested Kidd‘s loyalty/trust a lot already, Hardy gets his spot minutes every game. So they are already doing a lot in terms of trusting the kids. If I‘d had to guess I’d say they’re probably targeting January/February for finding some consistent minutes for Omax.
JamesConway912 - JamesConway912 - 11-15-2023
(11-15-2023, 01:27 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Lively will probably slide a little. He just won't have the counting stats as the year goes on. If you watch the games though, you will feel his presence more. I have to say, I am a little surprised we have not seen a 5 + block game yet.
The thing I like most about Lively (and Prosper) is both have the skill sets where they will find ways to help teams win without worrying about points. Several years ago, Michael Lewis had an article on Battier titled the No Stats all star. I sort of envision this type of title for both Lively and Omax...hopefully with a little more stats though
I think the moment Lively decides to play more aggressively you can probably forget about him getting over the 10 minutes per game mark as he would foul out every time. He has picked up some dumb fouls here & there but he’s clearly getting the rookie treatment from the refs so far. If there’s a 50/50 call it usually goes against him. Just one of those things that you have to accept Imo.
RE: JamesConway912 - Chicagojk - 11-15-2023
(11-15-2023, 01:43 PM)youzigizag Wrote: Not trying to be rude...not saying you said anything Homerish about OMax...
But can anyone give an objective analysis of his few minutes in real NBA games thus far.
My eye tells me there is a lot of sloppiness. I get it...hes young and needs to learn the schemes. My eye could be wrong...I am a huge cheerleader for this kid but my eye is telling me to tap the breaks due to a lot of sloppiness. He, no doubt, has time to figure it out...but I am concerned based on my belief that a lot of other young players coming into the league have a lot more body control than he does. I am rooting for him...Mavs could use his size and motor on defense...I am concerned about my untrained eye telling me he is too wild on the court. An easier way to say what I am trying to say it...seems like there is a lot to polish up. Not saying it cant be done....just that there is a lot to polish compared to others. Im 100% team OMax though.
There is no doubt he is going to need time. He is going to need to fight for playing time. Right now, minutes will be tough. But if there is an injury or two, he will probably get minutes. We will see if he will be ready to seize the opportunity.
There may be a better comparison, but old time mav fans may remember Eddie Najara. I think Omax has to try to do the same things to start out. Just go out there and make a mess of things. In my ideal role starting out is putting him on those scoring wings. Maybe when these players typically have 4 minutes before they get a break. Have OMAX cause all sorts of angst with how he moves and is non stop moving his hands on defense. See if he can cause these elite scorers issues. Now, the other team will probably be in the penalty so it will be important not to get cheap fouls. I think once minutes open up, this is the role I think he should start out in.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs last in NBA in PIP, but first in our hearts - youzigizag - 11-15-2023
Ive already mentioned it with no response...but OMax best trait that my untrained eye can see is his eagerness and ability to get the ball and attack the rim. I thought he was supposed to be a defensive guy...but looks like his best trait is calling for ball at perimeter and then attacking rim. Hes decent at it actually.
Thats not what the Mavs need. Its a good trait to have in the case of Luka, Kyrie, scheme failing...but we need solid defense and a 3 ball from OMax.
From the minutes I have seen...he looks wild and lost. Granted...not playing with the starters which provide professional spacing and organization to the game...but he looks really wild to me. Raw I guess is the word.
I really want the team to work on his defensive fundamentals. He seems to be a willing hard worker on defense like Green...just need to work on some fundamentals.
Maybe I am wrong and he looks great if put in with the starters.