(07-24-2023, 10:04 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Another 6’4” shoot first SG buried behind THJ, Hardy and Curry?  Make no sense unless something else is happening.  Now, if there is a THJ for Anderson deal, Minny would need to add a small salary to make the math work.  Maybe the Nowell ‘interest’ is nothing more than that?

https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/report-timberwolves-ready-to-move-on-from-jaylen-nowell-whos-being-linked-to-mavericks/

(07-24-2023, 10:04 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Another 6’4” shoot first SG buried behind THJ, Hardy and Curry?  Make no sense unless something else is happening.  Now, if there is a THJ for Anderson deal, Minny would need to add a small salary to make the math work.  Maybe the Nowell ‘interest’ is nothing more than that?

https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/report-timberwolves-ready-to-move-on-from-jaylen-nowell-whos-being-linked-to-mavericks/

(07-24-2023, 10:28 AM)Tyler Wrote: The relevant part of the quote for me: 

"But here’s a new team in on Jaylen Nowell: the Dallas Mavericks. They need to create some roster flexibility, they are looking into doing some stuff is the word and it may not come to fruition. But Jaylen Nowell is on Dallas’ radar."

I interpret that as implying that Dallas is interested in Nowell only assuming that they first complete a trade (which may not happen) that creates more roster flexibility. The obvious trade that would fit the description is the rumored THJ+McGee for Capela swap (as part of the Siakam deal) that has tons of smoke.

(07-24-2023, 11:30 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: This was my takeaway, too. 

An extension takeaway, though: if Nowell (or Gay) is a target for the if/when of a THJ trade, I think there’s a message mixed in about how the team views Hardy’s current state of readiness…or maybe even whether or not they’re looking at something involving Hardy outgoing, even.

(07-24-2023, 11:36 AM)Smitty Wrote: I know it’s taboo to say it out loud but I wouldn’t be opposed to Hardy being dealt if it brought back a real difference maker. I don’t know who that player is, certainly neither of the Centers the Mavs have been linked to (Capela, Ayton). 
OG, Siakam level guys - sure!

(07-24-2023, 11:42 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: As you say it would depend on the difference maker, but I agree. They don’t have enough draft capital to put WITH a guy like Hardy to land someone like that now though, which is why I’m glad they didn’t put that pick (or Hardy) into any of these rumored deals this year.

(07-23-2023, 08:39 PM)Branduil Wrote: No need for pitchforks, Jason Kidd is more than capable of turning this team around 360 degrees from last year.

(07-24-2023, 01:07 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Doesn't 360 leave you going in the same direction? Unless you are driving on a roundabout, that is.

(07-24-2023, 01:22 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: His rookie season Kidd was quoted as saying he was going turn the franchise around 360 degrees.  Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.  Cal doesn't have very high academic requirements for their athletes.  A family friend was a safety for Cal, dumb as a box of rocks.

(07-24-2023, 01:07 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Doesn't 360 leave you going in the same direction? Unless you are driving on a roundabout, that is.

(07-24-2023, 01:55 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I wonder how a guy goes from one of the smartest ever, to dumb as a box of rocks?

https://hoopshype.com/lists/20-greatest-point-guards-ever-the-hoopshype-list/

(07-24-2023, 10:28 AM)Tyler Wrote: The relevant part of the quote for me: 

"But here’s a new team in on Jaylen Nowell: the Dallas Mavericks. They need to create some roster flexibility, they are looking into doing some stuff is the word and it may not come to fruition. But Jaylen Nowell is on Dallas’ radar."

I interpret that as implying that Dallas is interested in Nowell only assuming that they first complete a trade (which may not happen) that creates more roster flexibility. The obvious trade that would fit the description is the rumored THJ+McGee for Capela swap (as part of the Siakam deal) that has tons of smoke.

(07-24-2023, 03:10 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Below is from Stein today.  It basically says the Detroit/Dallas discussion was initiated by Detroit and didn’t go anywhere. 

?””Recent trade talks between Detroit and Dallas, I'm told, were sparked by the Pistons' determination to ease a backcourt logjam by trading Killian Hayes and gained little traction.


While the Mavericks are indeed among the teams with a longstanding interest in acquiring Detroit's Bojan Bogdanović, their trade priority at this point of the offseason is still believed to be an upgrade at center. The Pistons have been seeking no less than a future first-round pick for Bogdanović for months


If one interpreted the original reporting as Dallas having interest, then it meant they weren’t particular about wanting a center.  Taken in this light, that is no longer true and the only real reliable reporting has been about Capela/Ayton (did we ever have a ‘report’ of Dallas interest in PJ Washington, or was this just some message board supposition (I honestly don’t recall)?  If supposition, then we are back to the only things that have been reported on have been actual centers (Ayton and Capela).

Something I struggle with is New Center, Holmes, Powell, Lively is too many bodies (and that is before mentioning Maxi).  I wonder if the next time this comes up is when Holmes can be aggregated?  In either case, Nowell, DJJ, Oubre and the like are just guys to fill the 14th slot (since we’ve presumably have two outgoing players for one returning in any trade for a center and would have to fill the roster back to 14.  I don’t think we will start the season with 15.

(07-24-2023, 03:10 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Below is from Stein today.  It basically says the Detroit/Dallas discussion was initiated by Detroit and didn’t go anywhere. 

?””Recent trade talks between Detroit and Dallas, I'm told, were sparked by the Pistons' determination to ease a backcourt logjam by trading Killian Hayes and gained little traction.


While the Mavericks are indeed among the teams with a longstanding interest in acquiring Detroit's Bojan Bogdanović, their trade priority at this point of the offseason is still believed to be an upgrade at center. The Pistons have been seeking no less than a future first-round pick for Bogdanović for months


If one interpreted the original reporting as Dallas having interest, then it meant they weren’t particular about wanting a center.  Taken in this light, that is no longer true and the only real reliable reporting has been about Capela/Ayton (did we ever have a ‘report’ of Dallas interest in PJ Washington, or was this just some message board supposition (I honestly don’t recall)?  If supposition, then we are back to the only things that have been reported on have been actual centers (Ayton and Capela).

Something I struggle with is New Center, Holmes, Powell, Lively is too many bodies (and that is before mentioning Maxi).  I wonder if the next time this comes up is when Holmes can be aggregated?  In either case, Nowell, DJJ, Oubre and the like are just guys to fill the 14th slot (since we’ve presumably have two outgoing players for one returning in any trade for a center and would have to fill the roster back to 14.  I don’t think we will start the season with 15.

(07-24-2023, 10:28 AM)Tyler Wrote: The relevant part of the quote for me: 

"But here’s a new team in on Jaylen Nowell: the Dallas Mavericks. They need to create some roster flexibility, they are looking into doing some stuff is the word and it may not come to fruition. But Jaylen Nowell is on Dallas’ radar."

I interpret that as implying that Dallas is interested in Nowell only assuming that they first complete a trade (which may not happen) that creates more roster flexibility. The obvious trade that would fit the description is the rumored THJ+McGee for Capela swap (as part of the Siakam deal) that has tons of smoke.