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RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - dirkfansince1998 - 02-02-2023
(02-02-2023, 03:25 AM)omahen Wrote: I agree, building a champion is difficult. Playing basketball in NBA is also difficult. Some players are better some are worse. Same goes for front offices. Some are successful, some are not. Mavs are clearly not. It is not enough that they wish to build a contender. They have to actually execute. If we would look at it that way, every player could be excused for shooting 1-15 daily. He really wants to hit those shots, no one doubts. He is not missing them on purpose, no one doubts. But at the end it is about making them, not shooting them.
100%. We could use the same logic and apply it to any given job. At some point results matter. Good intentions can only get you so far.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - ItsGoTime - 02-02-2023
(02-02-2023, 03:25 AM)omahen Wrote: I respect Dameris, but I find it difficult to agree with the piece below. Fans have the right to express their feelings. Fans have the right to put pressure on their team. So nothing wrong about that. Reactions of Mavs FO, Luka and so on were also appropriate, although perhaps Cuban would be smarter to just ignore it.The quote talks about getting Luka a star. I’m one that doesn’t even want that, how about start at just keeping the guys that work well next to him? After that, get more? Don’t care about getting a star, get Luka more talent on the roster and he’ll do the rest!
I agree, building a champion is difficult. Playing basketball in NBA is also difficult. Some players are better some are worse. Same goes for front offices. Some are successful, some are not. Mavs are clearly not. It is not enough that they wish to build a contender. They have to actually execute. If we would look at it that way, every player could be excused for shooting 1-15 daily. He really wants to hit those shots, no one doubts. He is not missing them on purpose, no one doubts. But at the end it is about making them, not shooting them.
Chuck Cooperstein on Twitter: "Its something Mavs fans don't want to hear or read. But all need to. Excellent work here from @bdameris" / Twitter
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - Chicagojk - 02-02-2023
(02-02-2023, 09:58 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: The quote talks about getting Luka a star. I’m one that doesn’t even want that, how about start at just keeping the guys that work well next to him? After that, get more? Don’t care about getting a star, get Luka more talent on the roster and he’ll do the rest!
I agree. I will gladly take a top 20 player to pair with Luka, but I hope that isn't the only plan. Lets find some dawgs and tough guys who can play in important games. Maybe 3rd best players on a team. If you add two of those guys, this team is much better. How would we look if we added a JET, Matrix and Chandler to this team? All have warts but all were championship players. Luka can bridge the gap if you find the right kind of players...even if they are really #3 type players. They need to be the right type of players though.
Another example, Bojan was traded for Kelly Olynyk this offseason. Two years ago, Lauri was traded for a late first and Derrick Jones. How about finding those type of deals over the next 12 months?
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - Chicagojk - 02-02-2023
In a perfect world, we would be sitting here with Luka and Jalen and talking about Dinwiddie trades. Maybe Din and picks for OG or Siakam? Add one of those to the roster and look out.
Luka
Jalen
Siakam
DFS
Wood
Green
Bullock
Maxi
Powell
Hardaway
Maybe not favorite but a team close. The tax would be high but this team would have a fighters chance against almost everyone.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - omahen - 02-02-2023
(02-02-2023, 09:58 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: The quote talks about getting Luka a star.
The quote does, but the mural the article is reffering didn't. It just said get Luka some help. It seems to me Mavs FO is always on the hunt for the star and never succeeding in doing it.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - ItsGoTime - 02-02-2023
(02-02-2023, 10:09 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I agree. I will gladly take a top 20 player to pair with Luka, but I hope that isn't the only plan. Lets find some dawgs and tough guys who can play in important games. Maybe 3rd best players on a team. If you add two of those guys, this team is much better. How would we look if we added a JET, Matrix and Chandler to this team? All have warts but all were championship players. Luka can bridge the gap if you find the right kind of players...even if they are really #3 type players. They need to be the right type of players though.Exactly, I myself didn’t want to pay Brunson his extension last offseason, but I myself am not paid to get that right. I don’t get to watch him day in and day out either.
Another example, Bojan was traded for Kelly Olynyk this offseason. Two years ago, Lauri was traded for a late first and Derrick Jones. How about finding those type of deals over the next 12 months?
I also would argue that the Wood trade was one of those good deals. Add JB to this team (at his max extension) and we do look a ton better right now, no doubt in my mind we’d be sitting comfortably in HCA territory. If we still didn’t think JB was the right player, he’d have a ton of value in this current environment in trade. JB would be a great start to a package for Siakam AND FVV for instance.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - mvossman - 02-02-2023
(02-02-2023, 10:09 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I agree. I will gladly take a top 20 player to pair with Luka, but I hope that isn't the only plan. Lets find some dawgs and tough guys who can play in important games. Maybe 3rd best players on a team. If you add two of those guys, this team is much better. How would we look if we added a JET, Matrix and Chandler to this team? All have warts but all were championship players. Luka can bridge the gap if you find the right kind of players...even if they are really #3 type players. They need to be the right type of players though.
Another example, Bojan was traded for Kelly Olynyk this offseason. Two years ago, Lauri was traded for a late first and Derrick Jones. How about finding those type of deals over the next 12 months?
I have found myself coming more and more around to this line of thinking. They don't need a star next to Luka, and their efforts to land them in either free agency or via trade (KP) have been disasters. Luka really just needs quality 2 way starters next to him in order to contend. Folks have posted that Iztok piece pointing out that their top 5 salary guys are all sub par defenders. That needs to change.
As far as the trades you mention above, lets hope that the Wood trade turns out to be a good example.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - ItsGoTime - 02-02-2023
(02-02-2023, 10:42 AM)omahen Wrote: The quote does, but the mural the article is reffering didn't. It just said get Luka some help. It seems to me Mavs FO is always on the hunt for the star and never succeeding in doing it.Therein lies the problem. The FO is perpetually looking for the star, many of the fans are pushing for that to happen still. Instead of all these years of looking for the grand slam had we been looking for singles and doubles, our team would be set up GREAT right now.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - Chicagojk - 02-02-2023
https://twitter.com/nbafan78/status/1621295344125444097?s=61&t=HxLvo6jaZvqjkcyeT4SC3Q
Great news on Maxi.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - KillerLeft - 02-02-2023
Haven’t seen anything about this. If I missed it, I apologize.
https://twitter.com/scammersultan/status/1621118779127402499?s=61&t=sHmGj4gDiB7CPdy6XKSiGQ
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - Kammrath - 02-02-2023
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1621369956133634048
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - Kammrath - 02-02-2023
https://twitter.com/CallieCaplan/status/1621361417734479872
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - KillerLeft - 02-03-2023
(02-02-2023, 11:55 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Therein lies the problem. The FO is perpetually looking for the star, many of the fans are pushing for that to happen still. Instead of all these years of looking for the grand slam had we been looking for singles and doubles, our team would be set up GREAT right now.
They need to do BOTH.
And for the record, not all if what they’ve done has been stupid. The stupid things they have done have been REALLY stupid, but Green and Hardy look like good picks to me. The DFS and Kleber extensions were both solid doubles. There are other positive developments.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 7th in West | 4-8 in last 12 - SleepingHero - 02-03-2023
(02-02-2023, 10:17 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Haven’t seen anything about this. If I missed it, I apologize.
Is this the one chance to remove Mark Cuban from the Mavs? If so PLEASEEEEEEEEE.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 4th in West | 5-8 in last 13 - SleepingHero - 02-03-2023
https://twitter.com/coopmavs/status/1621384120080236544?cxt=HHwWgIC8nYmRqIAtAAAA
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 4th in West | 5-8 in last 13 - Kammrath - 02-03-2023
https://twitter.com/KevinGraySports/status/1621399923559120898
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 4th in West | 5-8 in last 13 - Jym - 02-03-2023
(02-03-2023, 07:33 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/KevinGraySports/status/1621399923559120898
Even the Nuggets aren't truly scary. I really hope Nico has some magic to work
The past several years has been the most wide open and subpar the top of the West has been in decades. Such a shame we couldn't take care of some business and at least get to the Finals once
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 4th in West | 5-8 in last 13 - Chicagojk - 02-03-2023
Saturday night should be fun
https://twitter.com/MavsPR/status/1621608329842774017
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 4th in West | 5-8 in last 13 - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-03-2023
(02-03-2023, 03:38 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Saturday night should be fun
https://twitter.com/MavsPR/status/1621608329842774017
It's official, Dinwiddie is being packaged for Kyrie.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 8th O | 23rd D | 17th Net | 4th in West | 5-8 in last 13 - SleepingHero - 02-03-2023
(02-03-2023, 03:38 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Saturday night should be fun
click clank I'm a tank