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RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - Kammrath - 07-13-2022 https://twitter.com/HoopAnalysisNet/status/1547220866102165505 RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - Kammrath - 07-13-2022 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1547229919985520640 RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - Chicagojk - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 07:42 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/sheridanhoops/status/1547198778154811393 I think this was always the preferred ending. Question, can you move Kyrie and keep Durant happy? I think moving Kyrie is the best solution. Maybe you hold your nose, if there is not trade to be made. (07-13-2022, 10:05 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1547229919985520640 I can see this. Makes sense good teams would have an interest in a solid role player/ pest to other teams. I would guess he is probably worth a small asset. Not a first round pick, but something back without a long term commitment back to Utah. RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - Kammrath - 07-13-2022 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1547240397805699072 RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - Jmaciscool - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 10:23 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think this was always the preferred ending. Question, can you move Kyrie and keep Durant happy? I think moving Kyrie is the best solution. Maybe you hold your nose, if there is not trade to be made. Dwight Powell would look good in a Jazz uniform... RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - F Gump - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 07:18 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Hope will be filled. I'm still throwing out proposals. Something I find interesting is holding open the 15th spot. We typically think in terms of a two for one outgoing (expiring Powell and asset Green for Beverley for instance). But holding that spot seems to indicate the opposite might be true (one Dallas player outgoing for two incoming). A different angle for the 15th spot is "no one outgoing, no one incoming" and the Mavs just use it to cycle through prospects. Ever since Nico said they "might" just leave it open for flexibility, I've felt that could be a sign that they have nothing cooking, are stopping at 14, and want to give the illusion of "something more is possible." RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - Scott41theMavs - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 11:38 AM)F Gump Wrote: A different angle for the 15th spot is "no one outgoing, no one incoming" and the Mavs just use it to cycle through prospects. Ever since Nico said they "might" just leave it open for flexibility, I've felt that could be a sign that they have nothing cooking, are stopping at 14, and want to give the illusion of "something more is possible." So frustrating to be a Mavs fan right now. At least we still have Luka - for another year. RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - cow - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 11:38 AM)F Gump Wrote: A different angle for the 15th spot is "no one outgoing, no one incoming" and the Mavs just use it to cycle through prospects. Ever since Nico said they "might" just leave it open for flexibility, I've felt that could be a sign that they have nothing cooking, are stopping at 14, and want to give the illusion of "something more is possible." I hope we are scouting other G-League teams for prospects because our talent pool there looks like a 40 and over, smokers only, rec team. It's also almost impossible to believe that the MBT think they can get away with Luka and Dinwiddie as the only two facilitators on the team. RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - mvossman - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 12:19 PM)cow Wrote: I hope we are scouting other G-League teams for prospects because our talent pool there looks like a 40 and over, smokers only, rec team. I'm not sure why folks are surprised at this? They went into last season with only Luka and Brunson, and at the time there was significant question about Brunson being a true point guard. RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - Scott41theMavs - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 12:29 PM)mvossman Wrote: I'm not sure why folks are surprised at this? They went into last season with only Luka and Brunson, and at the time there was significant question about Brunson being a true point guard. The question is, why would they *want* to, after seeing the tremendous success they had having three ballhandlers in the heavy rotation. If they're thinking that way, they're stupid, and my strong hunch is that they're thinking that way. I need my banghead smiley from the old board. RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - cow - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 12:41 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: The question is, why would they *want* to, after seeing the tremendous success they had having three ballhandlers in the heavy rotation. And Dinwiddies knees are made of graham crackers and marshmallow fluff. RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - Kammrath - 07-13-2022 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1547280758494187531 RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - SleepingHero - 07-13-2022 https://cavaliersnation.com/2022/07/13/report-jazz-have-explored-sign-and-trade-that-would-send-mike-conley-to-cavs-for-collin-sexton/ Quote:Like the [Houston] Rockets before them, the Jazz remain engaged in various trade conversations to retool around [Donovan] Mitchell,” Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer wrote. “Utah has explored a sign-and-trade scenario that would send veteran point guard Mike Conley to Cleveland in exchange for restricted free agent Collin Sexton, sources said. The Cavaliers wouldn’t appear to have a need for an additional point guard, and it seems unlikely that Conley would be the returning player Cleveland would prioritize if talks ever gained legitimate traction.” Sexton isn't that valuable. CLE has no need for Conley. Seems like a 3rd team that has something CLE wants is needed here. There were rumblings that CLE needed a backup big. I'm not sure if they still need that given they signed Robin Lopez, but you have to wonder if the Mavs can get involved here. RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - mvossman - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 12:41 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: The question is, why would they *want* to, after seeing the tremendous success they had having three ballhandlers in the heavy rotation. This is my point. This FO has been a mess for many years, including last offseason. I think a lot of folks talked themselves into Nico being a savior after the KP trade worked out, but to me it always seemed unrealistic that bringing in a guy with no NBA front office experience was going turn our FO issues around. I'm still holding out hope that something is done to make more sense of this roster, but its probably false hope. RE: TRADE & FA: DAL likes Thybulle? | IND close to offering Ayton? - BigDirk41 - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 07:00 AM)Kammrath Wrote: This points to one of three things IMO: If we trade for Simmons, we'll just make him the 3rd string center to give us more depth...lol. Just kidding. Couldn't resist. (07-13-2022, 02:15 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: If we trade for Simmons, we'll just make him the 3rd string center to give us more depth...lol. Just kidding. Couldn't resist. Make him earn his starting spot by showing he can shoot first. RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - ItsGoTime - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 02:08 PM)mvossman Wrote: This is my point. This FO has been a mess for many years, including last offseason. I think a lot of folks talked themselves into Nico being a savior after the KP trade worked out, but to me it always seemed unrealistic that bringing in a guy with no NBA front office experience was going turn our FO issues around. I'm still holding out hope that something is done to make more sense of this roster, but its probably false hope.I don’t remember a single post talking about Nico being a savior. There were lots of posts happy with him seeing things the way they saw it with KP, and hope for the future. “Savior”, nah, I don’t remember that. RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - mvossman - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 02:31 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I don’t remember a single post talking about Nico being a savior. There were lots of posts happy with him seeing things the way they saw it with KP, and hope for the future. “Savior”, nah, I don’t remember that. The term "savior" was hyperbole, but there were a lot of "trust in Nico" posts. There was a lot of excitement and hope that he would make a difference in how this FO operates, which was encouraged after the KP trade worked out and after the Wood trade. He got a ton of praise for those two moves and some honorable mentions for Hardy, but when shit started going bad he has not been mentioned at all. Its been all Cuban or "the FO". RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - ItsGoTime - 07-13-2022 (07-13-2022, 02:43 PM)mvossman Wrote: The term "savior" was hyperbole, but there were a lot of "trust in Nico" posts. There was a lot of excitement and hope that he would make a difference in how this FO operates, which was encouraged after the KP trade worked out and after the Wood trade. He got a ton of praise for those two moves and some honorable mentions for Hardy, but when shit started going bad he has not been mentioned at all. Its been all Cuban or "the FO".The FO IS Nico, I don’t understand this crusade. It’s pretty natural to think when there is a big change like the GM being replaced that anything that seems a bit contrary to what had been happening is the new guy putting his stamp on things while the status quo is at least as much about those who haven’t left as it is him, if not more. I myself lumped Finley and even Dirk as a consultant as part of keeping the status quo. RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - dirkfansince1998 - 07-13-2022 Nico can only work with the hand that he was dealt. And I think that in Dallas case that comes with clear orders. Kamm listed the plan they communicated. I think the missing part is the what they aren´t communicating. The number one priority. Limiting tax spendings (in a best case scenario avoiding the tax). RE: TRADE & FA: PHX match max Ayton offer? | BRK to not trade KD/Kyrie? - KillerLeft - 07-13-2022 When it comes to this BRK stuff, I think you guys are falling for the public negotiations. Every single public statement, direct, leaked, whatever, that came after the news of the trade request, has been negotiation. Literally, all of them. Instead of what's being said, examine the actions. The Nets ran this same play during the Harden situation recently. He got traded. There are other dots I could spend time here connecting, like the timing of the trade request, the fact that certain other teams' activity has been frozen since the request was made, etc, etc. The bottom line, I believe, is that any notion of Durant playing another year in BRK (particularly together), is probably foolish. At least one of them is getting traded, I think, and my bet is that both will move. It might take until August, maybe even after training camp. |