+- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com)
+-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+--- Thread: TDL Archived: The 2nd Rnd Pick Yankee Swap (/showthread.php?tid=2150)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
240
241
242
243
244
245
246
247
248
249
250
251
252
253
254
255
256
257
258
259
260
261
262
263
264
265
266
267
268
269
270
271
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280
281
282
283
284
285
286
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
300
301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
322
323
324
325
326
327
328
329
330
331
332
333
334
335
336
337
338
339
340
341
342
343
344
345
346
347
348
349
350
351
352
353
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Ghost of Podkolzin - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 08:50 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I may be willing to gamble on Hayward if the main piece going out was Hardaway. The tricky part is Charlotte would not want Hardaway. He makes much less than Hayward but also goes an extra year longer. So how about a three team trade:
Levert and Powell goes to Charlotte--Charlotte clears 31 million for next year
Hardaway goes to Cleveland- Cleveland gets their shooter
Dallas gets Hayward- This balances out dallas roster a tad if Hayward can stay healthy. You will probably need to monitor his minutes heavily. 25 minutes a night to start.
Dallas could either go with that roster as it, or maybe roll the dice more and trade Bullock to the Knicks for the lottery ticket Reddish and a young asset in Sims.
Unfortunately, Hayward's staying healthy is like asking McGee to be mobile.
(02-01-2023, 08:56 PM)The Jom Wrote: 6’10, 240, very adept at switching = Dwight Powell. If he were officiated like Williams, he’d be the answer. If Williams came here, everyone would just hit him in the face.
Huh? Did you really just compare Powell to Williams? I love what Powell brings to the game, but being able to switch on to smaller players and defend the perimeter is not one of them. Maxi is the closest we have.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - DanSchwartzgan - 02-01-2023
[/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/TheLaurenGunn]
Lauren Gunn
I am officially worried about Christian Wood's future in Dallas.
7:30 PM · Feb 1, 2023·
3,859
Views
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - The Jom - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 09:14 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I love what Powell brings to the game, but being able to switch on to smaller players and defend the perimeter is not one of them.
Seriously? That’s his premier skill. The reason we keep trying to replace him with other centers and then trashing them to play him.
(02-01-2023, 09:18 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/TheLaurenGunn]
Lauren Gunn
I am officially worried about Christian Wood's future in Dallas.
7:30 PM · Feb 1, 2023·
3,859
Views
I’m really worried about watching him get targeted on the perimeter or pick and roll every single defensive possession he’s on the court come playoffs. If they can get something for him, they should.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - HoosierDaddyKid - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 07:20 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: IMO, Robert Williams is the future of NBA bigs. 6'9", 235lbs, and can switch.
Timelord makes Boston a different team when he's out there rim running and blocking shots. They are dismantling the Nets as we speak.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Ghost of Podkolzin - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 09:09 PM)The Jom Wrote: I really can’t agree with this. KP was baaaaaad here. He hurt our offense and then he hurt our defense and then he hurt our locker room. Yes, he also hurt our cap. But that didn’t make him a bad player. Playing bad did.
I'm with Roddy B here. If KP was on a reasonable contract, he'd still be in Dallas. When you make that much money everyone expects huge production.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Okstate819 - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 07:20 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: IMO, Robert Williams is the future of NBA bigs. 6'9", 235lbs, and can switch.
John Collins 6’9”, 235lbs and can switch.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - F Gump - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 05:45 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Ok, that sucks about Wood, did not know that. Must’ve missed that convo if it was had here. Is it a money thing or a years thing?.
Extending can create a 6 month no-trade barrier, unless the numbers and years are limited.
With Wood, the limit they could add would be about 2 years, $30.8M total -- which I don't see as big enough to entice Wood to sign it.
The practical ramification is that if you trade Wood, he will be a FA in the summer, which has the potential to limit what you can get for him.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-01-2023
https://twitter.com/TheLaurenGunn/status/1620957691622625281
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - DanSchwartzgan - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 10:11 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: John Collins 6’9”, 235lbs and can switch.
I’m watching that game right now too. Man he is underutilized. He does nothing but stand in the corner.
Speaking of…there is some thought of Indy wanting to deal for Collins to pair with Turner. If Indy is interested in that, then why not the Wood Experience. Indy has three first rounders. It would probably be difficult to add three youngsters. Maybe it is as simple as Bitadze/First for Wood and Dallas gets a $9.6mm TPE (to expire worthless a year from now). Indy has other cheap bodies they can add to the deal, but the more talent that gets added the less likely we get that pick. The more salary that gets added, the smaller the TPE. Without adding anyone else besides Bitadze, the salary over the LT would drop to $7.1mm.
Cuban will get blistered for trading a 20/10 guy to save money blah blah blah (time will tell if there really is a better deal out there). But, Mavs PR could at least attempt to spin that we got our pick back, a TPE to be used to acquire additional talent and turned four guys who are mostly out of the league into a young center prospect who was taken 18th a few years ago. I joke about the TPE not being used, but it feels like it could come in handy. There are some younger guys who might be brought in with little or no outgoing salary who might be useful. Thybulle? Reddish? Naz? Or, maybe it gets us some Maxi insurance. It isn’t inspiring…I get that. But despite the conversation with Omahen the other day, I still struggle to see a really good trade package coming our way for Wood before the TDL.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 11:20 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Man he is underutilized. He does nothing but stand in the corner.
ATL's use of JC has been criminal since Trae showed up. He has so much more to offer.
(02-01-2023, 11:20 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Bitadze/First for Wood
If the Mavs get a 1st back for Wood I am totally fine with that. Letting him walk for nothing? I riot.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-01-2023
@"DanSchwartzgan" what is the latest on Wood in here?
https://marcstein.substack.com/p/nba-trade-deadline-midweek-update?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-01-2023
https://twitter.com/KT_3410/status/1620997325480153088
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - F Gump - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 04:41 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: The whole point is that Collins is overpaid. We could use a guy like him as our #4 guy, say, in the event that the Mavs don't want to keep Wood. Collins is a hot potato. If you can use Atlanta's interest in getting rid of him, and his low value, as leverage to dump Bertans and/or THJ (BTW, those two together don't work for Collins, but THJ and Frank, or Bertans and McGee - yes, please - do work), then that's a golden opportunity. I certainly wouldn't tip them with a first in either of those deals, but a second or two might be okay -
So
Hardaway, McGee, 2nd
for
Collins and AHoliday (to keep ATL under tax line)
?
(02-01-2023, 04:51 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Anyone eating up that much cap space needs to be much more than a supplementary player.
Porzingis wasn't a bust here because he was a bad basketball player, he was a bust here because we paid him to be a GREAT basketball player and the second most important piece of the franchise and he couldn't be. I have a ton of doubt that Ayton has what it takes to be the second most important piece of any franchise and that's how he's getting paid.
Wood and Bertans
for
Ayton
?
Does that change your interest level?
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-01-2023
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1621003393534926849
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - DanSchwartzgan - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 11:28 PM)Kammrath Wrote: @"DanSchwartzgan" what is the latest on Wood in here?
https://marcstein.substack.com/p/nba-trade-deadline-midweek-update?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Nothing trade related. His thumb is taking longer to heal than originally believed. Extension talks very preliminary.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 11:35 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Nothing trade related. His thumb is taking longer to heal than originally believed.
Don't you think that could possibly be trade related?
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - DanSchwartzgan - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 11:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Don't you think that could possibly be trade related?
So, the theory is that shutting him down makes it more likely he gets traded? I guess I’m missing your angle.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - F Gump - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 11:35 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Extension talks very preliminary.
I continue to think that the only extension the Mavs have wanted to offer Wood before the TDL is the 2-year one that leaves him trade eligible. Every report has aligned with that narrative. But after the TDL, if he's still here, then it becomes a different story.
See Finney-Smith, D.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - DanSchwartzgan - 02-02-2023
(02-01-2023, 11:48 PM)F Gump Wrote: I continue to think that the only extension the Mavs have wanted to offer Wood before the TDL is the 2-year one that leaves him trade eligible. Every report has aligned with that narrative. But after the TDL, if he's still here, then it becomes a different story.
See Finney-Smith, D.
Detroit theoretically made Bogdanovic more valuable by bringing him in cheap and extending him. Wood at 15/15.8 over the next two years would probably do that too…especially if the second year was TO or partially guaranteed like the Bojan deal. That doesn’t seem unfair for Wood. It is basically a 5% raise on the deal he agreed to 3 years ago. Has he really done anything to make himself more valuable since that deal? Houston would argue no after trying for months to get a deal for him.
RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-02-2023
(02-01-2023, 11:43 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: So, the theory is that shutting him down makes it more likely he gets traded? I guess I’m missing your angle.
Just that if you are seriously considering moving him this week, then why would you bring him back from an injury this week? Just let him heal longer and don't risk re-injury or some other injury.