(01-20-2023, 06:14 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Since people always add 2nd rounders to our fantasy trades, I think it´s worth mentioning that we only have a total of two eligible 2nd rounders (2025/2027). All the others are gone already (2023/2024/2026/2028).

(01-20-2023, 06:46 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: We’ll get one back when the Knicks pick conveys and another after the draft too. So, we’ll have 4 of 7 in July

(01-20-2023, 09:14 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: So, where does that leave us moving forward?   The glaring hole is a two way wing.   Lets call this player *Paul George* as an example.    If Dallas can find a wing who can defend and create than the rest of the roster starts fitting together.  The other two starters would need to be guys who can defend multiple positions, be hustle guys and can hit outside shots.  Dallas already has these types of players....although they may need to refresh some of these guys.  

(01-20-2023, 10:06 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: I see this roster and its needs pretty similarly to you. Although i think Dinwiddie is perfect for the 6th man spot. 

But how do we get *Paul George*. Those types are hard to find, and i'm not sure we have the ammo.

(01-20-2023, 10:17 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Yeah, I should have stressed that more.  One, they don't hit the market often.   Two, when they do it tends to be a competitive market for their services.

(01-20-2023, 04:04 AM)omahen Wrote: I agree OG is not elite on offense. However, I think you are comparing an idea of what Green might become with what OG already is. OG is scoring over 17 ppg and is elite defender. Green is scoring 7 ppg and is not in elite defender conversations, although he might get there. He does not provide 80 % of what OG does. Perhaps in a couple of years. 

I would hate to include him in the deal, I agree with that. I would prefer giving up another pick instead.

(01-20-2023, 10:40 AM)JamesConway912 Wrote: How about we use the pick package and go after Brunson? Allstar PG who is a known quantity here on a cheap contract, the risk would be significantly lower than guys like Anunoby. We already know Brunson works alongside Luka, can OG do the same? I’d also much rather use all our picks for Brunson over someone like Siakam (often injured, almost 30, not an elite outside shooter)

I know how bad this would look but rationally I think it’s extre hard to get a better player than him for our picks.

(01-20-2023, 11:49 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Exactly.  That's a chasm of difference in their offensive games.  We need to only look at well balanced 3way players.

I would upgrade Green with OG.

Ultimately, Siakom is the ideal.  I would throw everything but Wood at him, including all picks.

Siakom, OG
for
Dinwiddie, DFS, Green, Hardy, 3FRPs

Point - Luka, Frank
Guard - THJ, Bullock
Forward - OG, Bertans
Forward - Siakom, Maxi
Center - Wood, Powell

(01-20-2023, 02:17 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: This leaves us with one guard on roster without any real way of adding another one...

(01-20-2023, 02:18 PM)mvossman Wrote: Not to mention that is not nearly enough assets to land both Siakam and Anunoby.

(01-20-2023, 02:17 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: This leaves us with one guard on roster without any real way of adding another one...

(01-20-2023, 02:18 PM)mvossman Wrote: Not to mention that is not nearly enough assets to land both Siakam and Anunoby.

(01-20-2023, 02:36 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: All kinds of possibilities exist.  SG is the easiest position to fill.

(01-20-2023, 02:42 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Nothing is easy once you mortgage away your entire future leaving us with no assets.  I was speaking more to the fact that there is one ball handler without any real path to get another one.  Hardaway would be the last semi tradeable player you have after a move like that.

(01-20-2023, 02:36 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Just an outline.  All kinds of possibilities exist.  SG is the easiest position to fill.

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Siakom, OG
for
Dinwiddie, DFS, Green, Hardy, 3FRPs

How much more over what I proposed is needed?

(01-20-2023, 03:07 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: I would think that package MIGHT net you Siakam (might even get to keep DFS) but the price on Anunoby is almost 75% of that package: DFS; 2 FR picks and 2 seconds.
Toronto SHOULD not want to do a package deal. Those are the best 2 assets they have and rebuilding around OG lessens the long-term impact of that.
Of course if a team is tearing it all the way down, they are more valuable in return separately than in a package.
The only way they should do a package is IF FVV is perceived as negative value and that can be diminished by packaging his contract with OG/Siakam and still getting the premium price.

That said, at this point IF Dallas could swing a deal that landed Siakam and FVV and added them to a team with Luka and C-Wood extended...