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RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - SleepingHero - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 10:03 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: I love Dorian, but a lottery pick? That would be a very nice asset to have next offseason. You’d have to try to replace part of Dorian’s production with the TPE, but this is tempting.
I'd rather have Dodo than a pick in 12-14 range. Unless the Mavs then used that pick to get someone who replaces Dodo then it'd be a major step back this season.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - SleepingHero - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 10:24 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I wonder if they have enough to pull that off?
Seems like it would be hard without moving Brunson, both value-wise and with the resulting roster fit. Luka/MCollum/Brunson would be a dynamite rotation, offensively, but doesn't really jive with the new defensive identity so much (maybe I'm wrong about that).
Before yesterday I would have said it'd have cost at least KP to get McCollum. Blazers essentially gave up Powell for a 2nd rounder and salary. Now, I have to think the Blazers just want to reduce payroll as much as possible. I'd be trying to get Nurkic and Nance Jr. as well
A similar cost cutting deal could be McCollum+Nurkic+Nance Jr. for THJ+Maxi+Green+M.Brown
Blazers save nearly 19 mil. I'm sure we'd need to add a first as well though, since they might view McCollum as a better piece than Norman Powell.
(02-05-2022, 10:34 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Yeah very tempting. I would want to know the details of the contract DFS wants.
There was a rumor he was looking for 14-15mil annually. Over 4 years that's about 61 mil. I'd pay that for DFS.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Okstate819 - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 12:20 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'd rather have Dodo than a pick in 12-14 range. Unless the Mavs then used that pick to get someone who replaces Dodo then it'd be a major step back this season.
If netting the 14th pick and sending it to ATL with filler nets you Collins then i’d still do it.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - SleepingHero - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 10:39 AM)omahen Wrote: These are questions we can't really answer. On one hand, its not like we would be giving up a great defender for a bad one. McCullom is certainly an upgrade over THJ. Would Brunson be ok with the 6th man role again? Would perhaps CJ be ok taking that role?
I think if you're trading for CJ he's 100% in the starting lineup. Just has to be. Despite his iffy defense, he's still one of the best scoring guards of the last 5 years. We haven't had that kind of dynamic scoring next to Luka ever.
He's basically a combination of Brunson and THJ. But also with THJ's defense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc0SowNUS3w
And McCollum can sometimes play defense when it matters most!
(02-05-2022, 10:47 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: The deal I'm allowing myself to dream about today is one centered around KP and Gobert.
If I read this 2 years ago I'd have closed my laptop and decided to go buy another KP jersey to cleanse myself from the blasphemy.
Now I'd personally drive KP to the airport. I've done a complete 180 on Gobert. Him next to Luka would be insane. His rumored attitude issues do scare me long term though
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - SleepingHero - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 10:57 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: By "stuff", do we mean DFS? I actually like that deal for Portland. Dallas would get CJ and take Nance into their TPE.
I actually think Portland would be more interested in Maxi than DFS. They've been looking for a stretch 4 for years now next to Lillard.
There were rumors of them eating Love's contract just to get Nance, but viewed Love as a positive. That's how badly they wanted a true 4.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - omahen - 02-05-2022
(8) NBA Central on Twitter: "Report: Raptors interested in Jakob Poeltl, Myles Turner, Robert Williams, Nicolas Claxton, Jusuf Nurkic and Danilo Gallinari https://t.co/YGEqDw9tfD" / Twitter
(8) NBA Central on Twitter: "The Cleveland Cavaliers are trying to acquire Caris LeVert ?, per @joevardon https://t.co/eEwCRCXCTn" / Twitter
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - aguiar95 - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 12:34 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think if you're trading for CJ he's 100% in the starting lineup. Just has to be. Despite his iffy defense, he's still one of the best scoring guards of the last 5 years. We haven't had that kind of dynamic scoring next to Luka ever.
He's basically a combination of Brunson and THJ. But also with THJ's defense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc0SowNUS3w
And McCollum can sometimes play defense when it matters most!
This was peak CJ. I wonder with two years in the bag and a cople more injuries if he's still the same scorer (haven't catched a Blazers game in a while).
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Kammrath - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 11:36 AM)omahen Wrote: I think it is not that difficult to defend PnR if you can just switch on defense, because the big doesn't have the skill to punish a smaller guy.
But in the switch against Rudy, with someone like Luka having the ball, he still has huge spacing gravity. If a smaller guy switches on to Gobert he is STILL a lob threat and requires another defender to sag from somewhere. There is a reason RG's offensive on/off is consistently positive. And in the last two seasons RG has been +12.0 and +5.2 in the playoffs. He had the abysmal showing in 18-19 playoffs, but that is old news. He figured out his part. RG is NOT the reason UTA has gotten bumped from the playoffs the last two years, far from it.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Kammrath - 02-05-2022
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1490027639024795657
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - SleepingHero - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 01:58 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1490027639024795657
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RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Mapka - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 01:37 PM)aguiar95 Wrote: This was peak CJ. I wonder with two years in the bag and a cople more injuries if he's still the same scorer (haven't catched a Blazers game in a while).
CJ didn't also.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Kammrath - 02-05-2022
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1490000180007084033
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Kammrath - 02-05-2022
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1489992011813949449
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - SleepingHero - 02-05-2022
I mean if the Knicks paid the Mavs a 2nd rounder for Kemba into our TPE I don't think that's a bad plan.
Would rather have Kemba over Burke.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - omahen - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 02:53 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I mean if the Knicks paid the Mavs a 2nd rounder for Kemba into our TPE I don't think that's a bad plan.
Would rather have Kemba over Burke.
Kemba certainly raises a ceiling as a third PG. But he is under contract for next season too, so I doubt Mavs would be willing to accept that for a second rounder due to their likely tax situation
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Mavs2021 - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 02:56 PM)omahen Wrote: Kemba certainly raises a ceiling as a third PG. But he is under contract for next season too, so I doubt Mavs would be willing to accept that for a second rounder due to their likely tax situation
Take the 2nd rounder, combine it with another 2nd rounder to send THJ to Orlando for Gary Harris. Re-sign Gary Harris for 8M.
Now you got Kemba/Harris off the bench for less money than Burke/THJ. I think the choice is pretty easy.
Of course you better be pretty confident you don´t help the Knicks creating the necessary capspace to snatch Brunson or DFS.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - dirkfansince1998 - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 02:56 PM)omahen Wrote: Kemba certainly raises a ceiling as a third PG. But he is under contract for next season too, so I doubt Mavs would be willing to accept that for a second rounder due to their likely tax situation
It all depends on the tax situation. As @"DanSchwartzgan" mentioned. Ballmer just set the bar again. Some of us thought that the Clippers would try to get out of some salary because they aren´t contending without Kawhi and PG. Instead they are doing the opposite.
If Cuban wants to play with the big boys he has to put his money where his mouth is.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - omahen - 02-05-2022
NBA Central on Twitter: "Report: Indiana Pacers ‘simply weren’t interested’ in a Domantas Sabonis for De’Aaron Fox swap https://t.co/PbBMl0lTNF" / Twitter
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - mvossman - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 11:32 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Gobert is not Luka or Ja. You make a fair offer for him without going overboard. If other teams have better offers, you move on. No need to get into a bidding war.
I actually disagree with this. Gobert is probably the most impactful defender in the NBA. He is also elite (top 5) rebounder and P&R player. His on court impact is insane. In my mind swapping KP for Gobert actually makes us a legit contender. A Gobert/DFS/Bullock/Luka/Brunson starting lineup would be top 3 defensively and likely top 10 offensively. I would be more than happy to send KP + first for Gobert. Probably more if I had to.
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL: Feb 10, 2pm | Gobert+Mitchell "at each others throats" - Davemo - 02-05-2022
(02-05-2022, 03:43 PM)mvossman Wrote: I actually disagree with this. Gobert is probably the most impactful defender in the NBA. He is also elite (top 5) rebounder and P&R player. His on court impact is insane. In my mind swapping KP for Gobert actually makes us a legit contender. A Gobert/DFS/Bullock/Luka/Brunson starting lineup would be top 3 defensively and likely top 10 offensively. I would be more than happy to send KP + first for Gobert. Probably more if I had to.
I might even throw Green if our first had some protection. I still don't think Utah would be interested. I wonder if they have any interest in Maxi? Maybe a KP+Maxi+Green package with some throw ins to make the salaries work. They get a Gobert replacement plus a replacement for that replacement (that's 3 replacements in 7 words for those of you counting) when he does not play....and they get some youth. Still seems light.