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RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - ItsGoTime - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 03:11 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Bingo.Morey actually REALLY screwed the pooch by not trading Harden for Simmons last year, if in fact that was a deal on the table (as well as if those were the only pieces, or not much more going to Hou).
They're just not a fit. For a while there, Philly couldn't decide which one to build around in earnest, and now that Rivers is there and Embiid is blossoming it's a done deal.
If the ball is going in to Embiid, then Embiid needs space, meaning the guy in Simmons' spot MUST be able to shoot. Simmons isn't a shooter, and no matter how much he improves, he's just not going to fit there.
One of those two guys must go, and most people have known it for a while. Imo, that does NOT mean that Simmons isn't an amazing get for a team with which his game DOES fit.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - Kammrath - 09-28-2021
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1442943503080718336
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - KillerLeft - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 08:22 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Morey actually REALLY screwed the pooch by not trading Harden for Simmons last year, if in fact that was a deal on the table (as well as if those were the only pieces, or not much more going to Hou).
Absolutely. If that deal was real, he should have pulled the trigger.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - omahen - 09-29-2021
Lets assume Simmons will be traded before season start. Do you think this will also be a catalyst for other trades that we were expecting (were rumored) to happen but never materialized? Players like Hield, Bagley, Sexton,...
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - Kammrath - 09-29-2021
(09-29-2021, 11:34 AM)omahen Wrote: Lets assume Simmons will be traded before season start. Do you think this will also be a catalyst for other trades that we were expecting (were rumored) to happen but never materialized? Players like Hield, Bagley, Sexton,...
Maybe not immediately, but I think Ben Simmons situation has held up the trade market this whole summer.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - SleepingHero - 09-29-2021
(09-29-2021, 11:34 AM)omahen Wrote: Lets assume Simmons will be traded before season start. Do you think this will also be a catalyst for other trades that we were expecting (were rumored) to happen but never materialized? Players like Hield, Bagley, Sexton,...
I'd be surprised if Hield AND Bagley don't get traded before the deadline this year. If rumors are to be believed, the Hield for Kuzma deal was all but done until it fell through at the last second.
I don't think Simmons will catalyze other trades though. Sexton will probably be on the Cavs till at least next year's offseason, just based on what they're looking for in a return and the current teams that want a PG.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - michaeltex - 09-29-2021
(09-28-2021, 10:42 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1442943503080718336
How the hell do you build an offense around a 7 foot point guard that won't shoot?
Simmons is going to bring bad juju to some unlucky team this season.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - embellisher - 09-29-2021
(09-29-2021, 10:54 PM)michaeltex Wrote: How the hell do you build an offense around a 7 foot point guard that won't shoot?
Simmons is going to bring bad juju to some unlucky team this season.
Yeah, the idiots on Facebook Mavs groups who want us to trade for Simmons drive me nuts. Please no!
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - omahen - 09-30-2021
https://twitter.com/HoopAnalysisNet/status/1443525809872932867
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - chaparral - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 11:20 AM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/HoopAnalysisNet/status/1443525809872932867
Mavs held hostage - continues...
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - Hypermav - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 11:20 AM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/HoopAnalysisNet/status/1443525809872932867
But Toronto loves him...
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - fifteenth - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 11:29 AM)chaparral Wrote: Mavs held hostage - continues...
Hopefully not. If Nico is the Nicotiator, he just has to set his price, stick to it, and move in a different direction if Toronto won't do it. Maybe he has his pre-season price and his trade deadline price set. Better for a deal not to dork out than to give up too much.
(09-30-2021, 11:40 AM)Hypermav Wrote: But Toronto loves him...
Right!! Had the same thought. That tweet states what we all think, but not what TOR had been saying.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - Mavs2021 - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 11:40 AM)Hypermav Wrote: But Toronto loves him...
It´s so funny how a few bounces altered the direction of two franchises and multiple reputations. How would people view Kawhi and Ujiri right now, if the triple bounce doesn´t go in? Would Philly have gone on to win the title?
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - TXBamanut - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 11:20 AM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/HoopAnalysisNet/status/1443525809872932867
This is basically the equivalent of sharing a craigslist ad from 2019 on Facebook...except everyone knows, and to this point, no one cares....and you'll end up donating it to Goodwill, because you have an asset that expires and you want too much for it.
Nico is the dude that keeps showing up to look at it, but keeps bringing only 2 20s, when you are asking for 80.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - Kammrath - 09-30-2021
https://twitter.com/ginamizell/status/1443644944762261506
https://twitter.com/ginamizell/status/1443644946926407695
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - KillerLeft - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 02:02 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/ginamizell/status/1443644944762261506
https://twitter.com/ginamizell/status/1443644946926407695
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RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - SleepingHero - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 02:02 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/ginamizell/status/1443644944762261506
https://twitter.com/ginamizell/status/1443644946926407695
Just why....
Why make a statement like that? I know Embiid probably doesn't care and the bridge has been burnt 5x over at this point but that's just throwing more gasoline on the fire for no reason lol
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - KillerLeft - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 02:49 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Just why....
Why make a statement like that? I know Embiid probably doesn't care and the bridge has been burnt 5x over at this point but that's just throwing more gasoline on the fire for no reason lol
lol, and I love how he said 3-4 tweets worth of quotable gold and then, at the end, said it's really none of his business. Priceless.
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - Mavs2021 - 09-30-2021
Damn it Ben Simmons. How is Embiid gonna feed Sprewell´s kids?
RE: 2021 NBA TRADE TALK: Simmons says he will not come to training camp in PHI - Tyler - 09-30-2021
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