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RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - fifteenth - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 05:59 PM)Arioch Wrote: $12M/year to DFS would
a) bring out the pitchforks for the new MBT "bidding against themselves"
b) quickly turn DFS into the new DP in the eyes of internet fandom
They can bring their pitchforks to the parade!
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 05:59 PM)Arioch Wrote: $12M/year to DFS would
a) bring out the pitchforks for the new MBT "bidding against themselves"
b) quickly turn DFS into the new DP in the eyes of internet fandom
I think you're correct.
But, what's your personal take on the value of that contract?
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - SkenfromLMF - 08-04-2021
We don't think DFS is an average NBA player???
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - fifteenth - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 06:04 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think you're correct.
But, what's your personal take on the value of that contract?
Based on Timmy's contract I kinda think the NBT (New Brain Trust) isn't going to be handing out bloated contracts based on loyalty and likability.
(08-04-2021, 06:08 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Based on Timmy's contract I kinda think the NBT (New Brain Trust) isn't going to be handing out bloated contracts based on loyalty and likability.
Or Nico Brain Trust!!
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 06:08 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Based on Timmy's contract I kinda think the NBT (New Brain Trust) isn't going to be handing out bloated contracts based on loyalty and likability.
Agreed, but what I mean is: do we really think that's a bloated contract for DFS?
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - fifteenth - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 06:10 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Agreed, but what I mean is: do we really think that's a bloated contract for DFS?
Well...I mean, no...but I might be a biased homer
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 06:11 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Well...I mean, no...but I might be a biased homer
Agreed. Took the words right out of my fingertips.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - DallasMaverick - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 06:08 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Based on Timmy's contract I kinda think the NBT (New Brain Trust) isn't going to be handing out bloated contracts based on loyalty and likability.
Or Nico Brain Trust!!
If the Mavs sign a bunch of really young players, does that make him a Nico teen?
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - BigDirk41 - 08-04-2021
I think DFS is worth in the 8-9 million per year. 12 million is too much imo.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - cow - 08-04-2021
Speaking of extensions, do you think some of the quality free agents left and some of the bargain signings hurt Jalen moving forward. I really have no idea what to pay Jalen but would a contract ranging in 5-8m be way too low at this point?
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - dirkfansince1998 - 08-04-2021
I think anything below the full MLE is just wishful thinking. Mavs just gave Bullock a full MLE contract. Why shouldn´t DFS demand the same.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - Arioch - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 07:05 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I think anything below the full MLE is just wishful thinking. Mavs just gave Bullock a full MLE contract. Why shouldn´t DFS demand the same.
I think the Bullock contract is the clear benchmark. They are both 3&D small forwards. Bullock appears to be a better shooter, I have no idea who is the better defender. Based on that, I think anything more than ~$10M/year is indeed the Mavs bidding against themselves.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - cow - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 07:05 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I think anything below the full MLE is just wishful thinking. Mavs just gave Bullock a full MLE contract. Why shouldn´t DFS demand the same.
What is DFS better at than Bullock?
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - Branduil - 08-04-2021
Should point out the Raptors just waived Baynes, so they're quite thin at center now. It's not like Powell wouldn't play for them.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - dirkfansince1998 - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 07:15 PM)Arioch Wrote: I think the Bullock contract is the clear benchmark. They are both 3&D small forwards. Bullock appears to be a better shooter, I have no idea who is the better defender. Based on that, I think anything more than ~$10M/year is indeed the Mavs bidding against themselves.
Have to account for things like health and age. DFS would be nearly two years younger and has been as healthy and durable as it gets. Cannot say the same about Bullock. 20/21 was his furst fully healthy season in the last five years.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - Bayliss - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 07:21 PM)Branduil Wrote: Should point out the Raptors just waived Baynes, so they're quite thin at center now. It's not like Powell wouldn't play for them.
The Mavs can sign him because we are lacking center depth.....
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 07:21 PM)Branduil Wrote: Should point out the Raptors just waived Baynes, so they're quite thin at center now. It's not like Powell wouldn't play for them.
Almost like they're planning for DP to be on their roster?
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - dirkfansince1998 - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 07:19 PM)cow Wrote: What is DFS better at than Bullock?
Age, healthy, durability. On court. I am not super high on DFS defense and cannot really say anything about Bullock because I haven´t watched enough games. Right now the easy answer would be. DFS is the better rebounder. Bullock the better shooter.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - cow - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 07:26 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Age, healthy, durability. On court. I am not super high on DFS defense and cannot really say anything about Bullock because I haven´t watched enough games. Right now the easy answer would be. DFS is the better rebounder. Bullock the better shooter.
It was an honest question. I'm super high on DFS and I think Bullock's contract is fine for him, but that's about the most I'd be comfortable with.
RE: ROSTER TALK: cap set to $112.414M | FA starts Aug 2, 5pm - DallasBasketball - 08-05-2021
DFS is worth full MLE or more. He’s made a legitimate impact on a playoff caliber team as a starter, and he’s learned to really shoot the 3 since his last contract.