2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" (/showthread.php?tid=1072) Pages:
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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Chicagojk - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:11 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I just think the fit with Luka and DeRozan is about the worst possible. Mix in KP and that might be the worst defense in the NBA. I understand that and it is fair. I just want to increase the starting level talent. Defense would be a concern. You would really need to hope KP improves on defense in this case and also fill the other two starting spots with versatile defenders. I also think Luka is not a bad defender. He just carries such a large load on offense, you can't count on him for defense. But I think in a playoff series he can be solid. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:15 PM)omahen Wrote: If Lowry thing to Miami is true, Mavs have once again showed that they are not players. Nah. I want to see what happens with the rest of free agency first. Not getting an almost 36 year old 6'0" guard on a $90M contract is not a "miss" IMO. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Thukydides - 08-01-2021 Has anyone of you calculated, what Miami can pay Lowry while retaining Robinson? Certainly not 30M, can they? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Chicagojk - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:12 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1421911533072781325 So if Miami signs and trades for Lowry they will probably need to give up one of their young kids. But they could re-sign Robinson and also have the MLE for a guy like Batum. They always seem to find a way. (08-01-2021, 02:12 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1421911533072781325 So if Miami signs and trades for Lowry they will probably need to give up one of their young kids. But they could re-sign Robinson and also have the MLE for a guy like Batum. They always seem to find a way. (08-01-2021, 02:17 PM)Thukydides Wrote: Has anyone of you calculated, what Miami can pay Lowry while retaining Robinson? Certainly not 30M, can they? looks like 28 million. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:17 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: So if Miami signs and trades for Lowry they will probably need to give up one of their young kids. But they could re-sign Robinson and also have the MLE for a guy like Batum. They always seem to find a way. I think that is possible. But Robinson MIGHT be more attainable now. Just watching it closely. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 https://twitter.com/massey_evan/status/1421911460645675020 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - KillerLeft - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:17 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Nah. I want to see what happens with the rest of free agency first. Not getting an almost 36 year old 6'0" guard on a $90M contract is not a "miss" IMO. It would be a "miss" if that was what the team was trying to accomplish. And, no matter how you will convince yourself it isn't, it seems pretty clear that it is what they were hoping for. Cool to be happy about them failing - I can understand that. But, good or bad from our individual POV's, this would represent the Mavs getting beaten in free agency again, and that will absolutely be the narrative. (08-01-2021, 02:20 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/massey_evan/status/1421911460645675020 Finally, someone connecting them to Powell! RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1421914054419943428 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Fuerza1 - 08-01-2021 I had zero expectations for this summer, Donnie and Carlisle left the Mavs in a DEEP hole. A championship level fix does not happen overnight. Gotta give Nico more time, he literally just got hired. No draft picks, no assets. Just add a couple role players, some depth, bank on internal improvement (KP, Brunson, new/better coach in Kidd). We good. ↓ Mavs up ↑ #4thSeed RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Jym - 08-01-2021 I just wish to see an offseason where we can transition to our B and C options if we happen to whiff on the A top option Adding on 2 or 3 MLE level guys to multi-year deals is perfectly acceptable RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 https://twitter.com/CBAMavs/status/1421914489675558913 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1421914536601432067 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - KillerLeft - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:22 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: I had zero expectations for this summer, Donnie and Carlisle left the Mavs in a DEEP hole. A championship level fix does not happen overnight. Gotta give Nico more time, he literally just got hired. No draft picks, no assets. This is a fair perspective. I just wish they hadn't made their Lowry courting so public if they were going to lose. I kind of miss the old, cloak and dagger style a bit. We're going to have to hear local (and national) fans talk for another year about how people don't want to play here, which I don't believe is the case and annoys me to no end. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - mvossman - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 01:51 PM)Jakeospikez Wrote: Don't think Tobias is a good replacement for Collins. He'd be a secondary creator, but he doesn't play above the rim and doesn't rim run at all really. He's also way more inefficient from 2. His highest EFG% is .561 in 55 games on the Clippers the year he got traded to Philly and that was with shooting 43% from 3. He is sort of like THJ in that yeah he'll take someone off the dribble for a mid range shot, but do you really want that... ever? Similar assist numbers early in their careers. Collins has way better inside touch and he actually does hit midrange shots, he just rarely takes bad shots which is why his efg% is elite. 63% & 61% in years 3 and 4. Better rebounder too. Ball handling can possibly be developed still which is the biggest weakness. Run offense through guards when Luka is on the bench. I agree its not a good comparison, but Collins does not provide 5 out because you do not want him at the 5. He was poor defensively in that position. That is why Atlanta brought in Capella and pushed him down to the 4. I think you lose a lot of his offensive value when you play him with another rim runner, but he needs to play with a true defensive 5. Hard to find defensive stretch 5s. I actually think he would be a great fit with Maxi. Don't think Luka needs a rim runner. He is elite offensively in 5 out or with rim runner. What we really need is better rim protection, and if that means bringing a strong rim runner, Luka can work with that as well. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - fifteenth - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 12:54 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: THAT is noted moron Gilbert Arenas. Oh ok. That makes more sense. I'll make a bold claim (not really) that some here will surely push back against. As much as we all want a roster upgrade, the Mavs of the last few years were actually made up of some good players. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:26 PM)fifteenth Wrote: As much as we all want a roster upgrade, the Mavs of the last few years were actually made up of some good players. I agree. Don't think roster composition was the main issue. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: It would be a "miss" if that was what the team was trying to accomplish. And, no matter how you will convince yourself it isn't, it seems pretty clear that it is what they were hoping for. I just don't think Nico will be concerned about public and media narratives. The reason I suggest the "smokescreen" and the "agent favor" as possibilities for Nico's approach is not as a "conspiracy" but as a LEGIT tactic to navigate the market. What better way to position yourself in free agency than to have the other teams over spend on THEIR players. Hyping the players you DON'T want is a REALLY good way to help the market be favorable to you. I genuinely think this COULD be a way that Nico is operating. I have no idea and am only guessing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Mavs sign the players they have NOT been connected to and "lose out" on all the players they were connected to: Lowry, DeRozan, Dinwiddie, Oubre, etc. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Fuerza1 - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: This is a fair perspective. When have the Mavs been cloak/dagger? Mavs have been linked to most big names in free agency the last 10 years. And it is true, no body wants to play here. Nothing wrong with that, it's okay; that's why it is important to build the team the right way instead of plan powder every summer like Don-nepotism. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - mvossman - 08-01-2021 (08-01-2021, 02:23 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/CBAMavs/status/1421914489675558913 That would be crazy disappointing offseason. THJ and Dragic and no MLE? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA favs to SnT for Lowry - Kammrath - 08-01-2021 https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/1421916199991103492 |