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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - Chicagojk - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 08:10 AM)JamesConway Wrote: That would be too much for me. I also don’t think CHI will ultimately end up getting a 1st. Seems too pricey considering that he clearly wants out and with the poor fit between him & Vooch in mind. Yeah I agree. Chicago should be in no rush. Best case for them is Lauri accepts the qualifying offer. They would eventually be able to trade him then right? I would expect he would be a hot target at the trade deadline at 9 million expiring. That could be their best chance at a first round pick. With money drying up, they are in the drivers seat. Unless like a team like OKC comes to the table with a strong offer. But Chicago could always match unless the offer was too high for their stomach. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - IamDougieFresh - 08-10-2021 https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1425090440278298630?s=19 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - mvossman - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 07:11 AM)omahen Wrote: Which would mean that dumping JRich for air was a mistake I think the opposite. I think it was an excellent move. All signs point to JRich opting in specifically for the trade to Boston. Why else would he have waited so long on his decision. And they were obviously negotiating with Boston long before he made the decision. It seems highly likely all parties were involved. By making that trade, they were still in a position to operate over or under the cap. If JRich walks, they get nothing if operating over the cap (and my guess is they were already leaning that way based on not being able to land their top guys except for THJ). RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - fifteenth - 08-10-2021 Does 15 million seem high for a borderline starter, one-way player? Is Markkanen a starter if he comes here? Can he play center? Can he guard wings if he doesn't play center? I guess you can say this about him. He could be that Finnish-ing move that people talk about. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - mvossman - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 07:01 AM)omahen Wrote: Is it really not worth sending a SRP to Lakers and take him into our TE? I would rather do this than send a first for Lauri, but maybe he truly is toxic (or maybe they are more confident than I am on getting Dragic). As for Lauri, the most I give up for him is WCS and a second. I think they could sign him for as high as 4/50 into the TPE. I'm not really a fan of the fit and not terribly excited about signing another soft big to roughly MLE money, but I suppose he could be an asset at that price. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - Kammrath - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:12 AM)fifteenth Wrote: He could be that Finnish-ing move that people talk about. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - mvossman - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:12 AM)fifteenth Wrote: Does 15 million seem high for a borderline starter, one-way player? Is Markkanen a starter if he comes here? Can he play center? Can he guard wings if he doesn't play center? Yes, no, no, no. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - fifteenth - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:13 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Maybe that's a joke that has to grow on you. Come back and read it later, it might get better. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - Mapka - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 08:38 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Yeah I agree. Chicago should be in no rush. Best case for them is Lauri accepts the qualifying offer. They would eventually be able to trade him then right? I would expect he would be a hot target at the trade deadline at 9 million expiring. That could be their best chance at a first round pick. He can Veto any trade if he takes the QO. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - sefant - 08-10-2021 Dragic vs. Powell / Terry Moses Brown/2nd rd pick to the Bulls LM 11 mill into TPE. If he wants more, good luck on the Pelicans RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - fifteenth - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:18 AM)sefant Wrote: LM 11 mill into TPE. If he wants more, good luck on the Pelicans How do you deal with those Bulls that are in the way? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - sefant - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:18 AM)fifteenth Wrote: How do you deal with those Bulls that are in the way? Future 2nd round pick and Moses Brown. Seperate deal if needed, if you can't combine salary with the TPE. LM still has some decision making. Even if a team offer a 1st round pick, if LM doesn't want to play for them. Its up to the Bulls to accept the deal from the team that LM wants to sign for. Or keep an unhappy guy for the qualifying offer. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - Kammrath - 08-10-2021 RE: Markkanen I think he has a ton of potential and talent. I think he has even been a "solid" defender most of the time that won't destroy a team defense. But I also think he has underperformed to his talent level and there are some big questions around him. Coby White on LM: Quote:“When Lauri is aggressive, he can’t be stopped." Zach Lavine on LM: Quote:"He can dribble. He can rebound. He can spread the floor like a guard. And on the defensive end, he can guard different positions and play through the post." I like the Mavs pursuing him. But at what price point, as far as contract AND as far as trade pieces? My take:
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI - Kammrath - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:12 AM)fifteenth Wrote: Does 15 million seem high for a borderline starter, one-way player? Is Markkanen a starter if he comes here? Can he play center? Can he guard wings if he doesn't play center? $15M gives me pause. $12-14M I am cool with. I think LM has the potential to be decent enough on both ends, but he hasn't shown the consistency. I think he can be a starter, but again hasn't shown the consistency. On DAL I think you maybe use him as offense off the bench initially until the KP situation is resolved. I think he can be a small ball center for sure. I think his perimeter D shouldn't be relied upon, but is probably passable in small bursts. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested? - Kammrath - 08-10-2021 https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/1425099414562091008 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested? - Kammrath - 08-10-2021 Lauri's first two years in the NBA he was a 55th and 75th percentile roll man (average to above average). The last two years he has been a 25th and 33rd percentile roll man (below average). If he can be an above average roll man, I like that fit on this team. If the last two years are the real LM, then I am not interested. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested? - Kammrath - 08-10-2021 From Jake Fischer: Quote:Either way, each team that has inquired about Markkanen would have to now add him via sign-and-trade, as cap space has dwindled across the league. Dallas, New Orleans, Boston, and Minnesota have all shown interest in signing Markkanen to deals worth around $15 million in average annual value, sources said, but the Bulls are seeking a first-round pick in exchange for helping facilitate the transaction. Additionally, Chicago brass are requiring Markkanen's new team to find a third trade partner to take on the outgoing salary needed to create space for Markkanen's contract. Quote:With that, there's a belief among many league personnel that Markkanen will ultimately be forced into accepting a one-year qualifying offer that would pay him roughly $9 million and allow him to reach unrestricted free agency next summer, just like LaVine. Yet, there's also a strong sense Markkanen has no intent to return to Chicago on that structure. Quote:Goran Dragic remains in a similar limbo, which sources with knowledge of his standing with the Toronto Raptors said could potentially linger until September. Raptors officials sought to find a third team interested in acquiring Dragic from Toronto's sign-and-trade that sent Lowry to Miami, sources said, yet no front office was willing to exchange draft capital for a player they believe Toronto will ultimately buy out. Quote:Raptors brass will meet with Dragic's team at Las Vegas Summer League to further discuss their situation, sources said. The veteran point guard, expectedly, has designs on playing in the postseason and has publicly conveyed his intrigue in teaming with countryman Luka Doncic in Dallas. Perhaps he and Markkanen will both end up as Mavericks at long last. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested? - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 08-10-2021 My opinion on Lauri on why the Mavs should get him:
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested? - fifteenth - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:55 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Lauri's first two years in the NBA he was a 55th and 75th percentile roll man (average to above average). The last two years he has been a 25th and 33rd percentile roll man (below average). So, could you say that his first two years show that he could possibly be a decent Finnisher? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested? - ItsGoTime - 08-10-2021 (08-10-2021, 09:29 AM)Kammrath Wrote: $15M gives me pause. $12-14M I am cool with.Penny pincher!!! |